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Weekly Forms WG Teleconference

30 Apr 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Charlie, wellsk, unl, John_Boyer, markbirbeck, ebruchez, Leigh_Klotz, Roger
Regrets
Steven, Nick
Chair
John
Scribe
Leigh

Contents


 

 

<John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh

<John_Boyer> scribenick: Leigh_Klotz

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0126.html

<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FtF_2008_06

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0125.html

<klotz> "An important principle of Web architecture is that all important resources be identifiable by URI. The finding discusses the relationship between the URI addressability of a resource and the choice between HTTP GET and POST methods with HTTP URIs."

<klotz> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet.html

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0107.html

<klotz> ACTION: Mark Birbeck to raise issue of leaving XForms submission resource attribute alone and perhaps having RDFa document its semantics in a future version. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/30-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Mark

<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. mseaborn, mbirbeck)

<John_Boyer> <submission ..

<John_Boyer> <instance value="blah"/>

<John_Boyer> gets the value of blah and uses as IDREF overload of instance attr

<John_Boyer> but

<John_Boyer> <instance ref="blah"/>

<John_Boyer> would instead overload by pointing to actual instance data

<ebruchez> if we had 'response-body' on xforms-submit-done, we could write <setvalue ev:event="xforms-submit-done" ref="/foo/bar" value="event('response-body')"/>

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" instance="foo" response="/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" instance="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" response="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" return="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" desto="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" atari="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<Roger> destino is destination in Spanish

<Roger> ;-)

<ebruchez> cible="..."

<klotz> target1

<wellsk> instance-target

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" instance='foo' instance-target="instance('foo')/foo/bar" />

<klotz> <submission replace="instance" instance='foo' instance-target="/foo/bar" />

<wellsk> from spec: By default, the target node is the document element of the instance indicated by the instance attribute.

<unl> leigh, instance('foo')/foo/bar and /foo/bar are not equivalent

<markbirbeck> <submission replace="target" target="_blank" />

<klotz> yes, beacuse of the first child rule, but i"m being lazy typing.

<wellsk> xforms-target

<klotz> xf:target

<ebruchez> oouch

<unl> xf:target

<John_Boyer> <submission replace="instance" target="xpath"

<John_Boyer> <submission replace="all" target not used

<John_Boyer> <submission replace="target" target="IDREF"

<wellsk> <submission replace="target"

<John_Boyer> or <submission replace="all" which is default and target="IDREF"

<klotz> "'foo'"

<Charlie> sounds like too much magic

<unl> why not rename replace="all" to replace="document"? when target is given, interpret it as IDREF, otherwise use document root.

<klotz> RESOLUTION: We revoke our previous resolution and keep submission/@target as is, since we now understand that in the future we may take advantage of other attributes and XSLT 2.0 doc() function to refer to parts of the host document.

<John_Boyer> 28<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0118.html>

<Charlie> wasn't it for form startup?

<Charlie> think so

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Mark Birbeck to raise issue of leaving XForms submission resource attribute alone and perhaps having RDFa document its semantics in a future version. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/30-forms-minutes.html#action01]
 
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