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Alessio: My tests have been progressing
nicely
... I can now bookmark pages with iframes
... I will send an email about it, with a link to my test page
<Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0020.html
Roland: Steven, your review got a quick
response
... we have to decide how to reply to that
Steven: The reply is that there are already
implementations, so they don't want to make any change
... So we could say that if they are unwilling to make the change, they
should at lease identify the problem in the spec
... and warn people that using default namespaces in CSS will have this
problem
... and people might choose not to use default namespaces if they want the
stylesheet to work across implmenentations
Mark: I think we should point out that last call comments shouldn't be treated like this
Shane: What is the doc's status?
Steven: In WD for 9 years, never been a rec
Shane: Then I agree with Mark; if it's been broken for 9 years it should still be fixed
Steven: [Explains our original comment]
Mark: Does foo: {color: green}
work in a NS aware CSS agent?
Steven: Yes, it should work the same as in
CSS1
... it is only if you have @namespace "..." that the semantics
of simple selectors change
... so the best way round the problem is always to use explicit namespace
selectors like html|a: {color: blue}
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to reply to CSS about default namespaces [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
Steven: This call overlaps with the Forms call, so Mark and I would like to avoid this
[No objections]
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to make call 15 mins earlier [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
Roland: Shane?
Shane: Still working on it
Steven: I filled in the form
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-basic-11-implementation.html
<yamx> How about this one? http://testfest.openmobilealliance.org/XHTML_Suite_3/index.xhtml
Steven: I need a URL for the test results
Yam: Put my file I sent somewhere and point to it.
Steven: OK, great
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to publish Yam's results and point to it from implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
Roland: Shane, you sent out a doc for last call
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-curie-20080318/
Steven: So we will go to last call since the TAG hasn't sent the comments it promised?
Roland: Yes
... Section 4 uses some examples, I missed one using XHTML 1
Shane: I can change the XHTML2 example to XHTML 1.1+RDFa
Gregory: I would mention all three
Steven: The HTML example uses @about
... How about using <a rel="cc:licence"... Shall we add the XHTML 1.1 example before the XHTML2 one?
Mark: We could just say "In HTML 4 you can use
<meta scheme" etc
... since this section is only talking about prefix mechanisms
Steven: That could work
Shane: We haven't defined this mapping for
HTML4, nor is it up to us to do so
... so maybe we shouldn't have the example
Roland: Agree
Shane: OK, though I think it should be done like this in the future
Mark: My comments are not big, but in terms of
the order of the document
... section 5 could come earlier
ShaneI: I will reorder - Usage, followed by Syntax, then prefix mechanisms then conformance
RESOLUTION: Take CURIES to last call
Roland: There has been a suggestion that this should be sent to HCG
Steven: I spent 2 hours on the phone with
people on this yesterday
... I think that the main hurdle I had anticipated is not there
... so I think we are OK
Roland: We might have to create a new note about best practice if people object to us changing the media type note
Mark: We should be able to use these mime types
to our advantage
... advertise the application mime type only if you (the UA) understand
XML
... but it is perfectly legit to send it as text/html to other UAs
... but then use default namespace etc
... so we just say that it is official you can use both mime types, and then
explain how to use them
Roland: Time's up
Roland: We'll do this next week