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<Ralph> yay Manu, Shane, & Mark!
Ben: Thanks all for what you did when I was away
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Manu create unit test to make sure that rel=":foo" generates a triple. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/21-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
<Ralph> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-rdfa-syntax-20080221/#s_xhtmlrdfa
<Ralph> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-rdfa-syntax-20080221/#col_Metainformation
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#s_metaAttributes
Mark: I think part of the test is wrong
Manu: We'll review it later
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Manu let Michael know that Test 76, 77, and 87 are missing stylesheet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/21-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Manu write a response to Christian Hoertnagl for issue 7 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/21-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]
Ben: Pass it back to me if you want
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to email mailing list to think about last substantive issue on tracker: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/6 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
Ben: Maintaining xml:lang on some literals?
<scribe> -- continues
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Manu write 2 new tests for img[@src] as subject [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
<Ralph> Steven: I do recommend that people read the post with the SXSW dinner proposal -- it talks about microformats
Ben: Digg really want to do RDFa!
... will be there in a couple of weeks
Manu: We have 6 outstanding tests
<msporny> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/
<Ralph> -- test 84; multiple ways of handling incomplete triples, this time with both @rel and @rev
Ben: Looks OK
Mark: Fine
Manu: Me too
RESOLUTION: Test 84 is OK
Manu: Test 85
... @resource and @href in completing incomplete triples
... this passes all three implementations
<benadida> <a href="o" property="p">xxx</a>
<benadida> o p "xxx" .
<benadida> <a rel="p2" href="o" property="p">xxx</a>.
Ben: This means that the subject changes
... from o to the about property
Mark: Hmm, shame; that wasn't intentional
... too late to change it now
Ben: At first it bothered me
... but I got used to it
... you just have to watch out
... The test looks good
RESOLUTION: Test 85 passes
Manu: Test #89 (unreviewed): @src sets a new
subject (@instanceof)
... Passes the three implementations
Ben: Does that include mine?
Manu: No
RESOLUTION: Test 89 passes
Manu: Test #90 (unreviewed): @src sets a new subject (@rel/@href)
Mark: Is "next" good here?
Steven: I like it
Mark: Or @resource instead of @href
Manu: Well, this one works
Ralph: Mark is talking about best practices
Mark: rel="alternate" might be better
... or rel="licence"
Ben: I like it!
RESOLUTION: Test 90 to be modified as above
Mark: Ben, is rel="licence"equivalent to cc:licence
Ben: We do support it
... we may want to make xhtml:licence a subclass of dc:licence
RESOLUTION: Test 90 is accepted with changes to @rel="license" and @href="<some CC license>"
[end of test for this week]
Mark: If you change it to cc:licence, then I
support @href here
... so it can be a clickable link
Steven: See the rdfa.info blog
... Yahoo supporting RDFa, pretty neat
... Micah Dubinko has been talking to me for sometime about RDFa, but I
didn't realise why
<Ralph> Yahoo Microsearch supports RDFa
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/87
Ben: There is an old use of src
... I think the fix is obvious
... move the rel to the parent div
Shane: We need to track if each change is editorial or substantive
Ben: It doesn't change the spec
... it was a typo
... though it is in a normative section
Shane: All examples though are informative
... remember that substantive changes might trigger a new last call
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to respond to issue 87 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
Ben: Issue 88
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/88
Mark: Just requires to reorder the three
bullets
... I moved the third to the top
... without changing the wording
Ralph: This looks substantive if it's not otherwise clear what we intended
Mark: If you take all three rules together, the
intent is clear
... it depends if you take them as steps or rules
Ben: This is just a clarification of our intent
Steven: Which is not strictly substantive
<scribe> ACTION: Mark to reply and process issue 88 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
Ben: let us do other by mail, since we have others topics for today
<Ralph> [RDFa Implementation Report] Using EARL? [Michael 2008-02-27]
Ben: An implementation report is just "here are a bunch of implementations, and they pass the tests'?"
Steven: Yes
Ralph: We don't have to list all implementations we know
Steven: Two is enough
Shane: We are already done
Ralph: Nice to have some outside the TF though
Ben: Michael seems to have this in hand
Ben: The primer needs a review and update
<Ralph> RDFa Primer
<Ralph> Steven: I've heard people ask for a cookbook
<Ralph> ... showing how to do vCard, etc.
Ben: Do it on the wiki
Steven: That would work
<Ralph> [I support doing cookbook examples via wiki]
Ben: I'm happy working on the primer
... but please join me if you want
<Zakim> Ralph, you wanted to ask about editors' draft
Ralph: We need a quick update so that it matches the last call
<ShaneM> +1
Ralph: improvements can come later
<Ralph> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20071026/
Ben: That's the most recent version
<Ralph> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa
<benadida> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to update the primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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