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<Steven> trackbot-ng, start meeting
<trackbot-ng> Date: 20 February 2008
<John_M_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
<John_M_Boyer> Steven, did you have any opinion you wanted to express about "Decision Point for XForms 1.2"?
<John_M_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
<John_M_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0067.html
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0053.html
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0002.html
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0001.html
<ebruchez> yes I think so
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0002.html
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0001.html
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer to fix missing text in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0002.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0001.html
<scribe> ACTION: John Boyer to clarify text for http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2008Jan/0001.html as a minor editorial change for XForms 1.1 CR. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0066.html
<nic1> I find the '|' syntax for separating the prefix strange.. why not use ':' but they prob. have a good reason
<Steven> : was already taken in CSS when the namespace spec came out Nic1
<nic1> ok I see name value is separated by colon
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0067.html
<scribe> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to update Appendix G to match current CR version http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0067.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-453 - Klotz to update Appendix G to match current CR version http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0067.html [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-02-27].
<John_M_Boyer> 28http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features#head-68c8a12c939282665c4a9f56de5fa04011cc3d19 <http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features> rnhttp://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features#head-68c8a12c939282665c4a9f56de5fa04011cc3d19
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0055.html
<John_M_Boyer> XForms 1.2: Streamlined for Web Application Authors
<nic1> The problem is that I don't have enough time... but I really would like 'Same model item property on the same node' in XForms 1.2
<nic1> ... to write it up soon
<nic1> I like XQuery too ;)
<John_M_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#NT-FunctionName
<John_M_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Custom_XPath_functions
<SusanB> yes that is correct
<ebruchez> http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt20/#stylesheet-functions
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-xqueryrss/#N10181
<ebruchez> from XSLT 2.0: "A stylesheet function must have a prefixed name, to remove any risk of a clash with a function in the default function namespace. It is a static error if the name has no prefix."
<ebruchez> for XQuery 1.0, the doc is here: http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery/#FunctionDeclns
<ebruchez> For XQuery 1.0 still: "Every user-defined function must be in a namespace--that is, every declared function name must (when expanded) have a non-null namespace URI [err:XQST0060]. If the function name in a function declaration has no namespace prefix, it is considered to be in the default function namespace."
<John_M_Boyer> <function name="namespace:foo" ...
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation name="some.javascript.function" ...
<ebruchez> so it seems that with XQuery 1.0, you can declare the function as an NCName, but then there must be a default function namespace defined somehow
<ebruchez> xmlns:math="java:org.apache.utils.MyMathClass"
<nic1> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-xalanextensions.html
<ebruchez> select="math:power()"
<nic1> it is quite standard in XSLT land
<nic1> <xsl:variable name="blue" select="color:new(20, 10, 160)"/>
<John_M_Boyer> <function name="foo"
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation
<nic1> http://www.exslt.org/func/elements/script/index.html
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation name="java:org.apache.utils.MyMathClass"
<John_M_Boyer> <implementation name="javascript:foo"
<nic1> <func:script implements-prefix = ncname language = qname-and-not-ncname src = uri-reference archive = uri-reference />
<nic1> A Java class: src="java:com.example.datestuff.DateRoutines"
<nic1> An ECMAScript library: src="http://example.org/somecode.js"
<nic1> but they also have http://www.exslt.org/func/elements/function/index.html
<nic1> for the record: Erik has the acton to write up 'Custom XPath functions''
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0055.html
<nic1> I can go with it but I think I would prefer to add 'Same model item property on the same node ' but this can be under the hood of Add model item properties to UI level
<nic1> so it is fine for me
<John_M_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0055.html
<ebruchez> fine with me to limit the scope of 1.2
<nic1> fine for me
<SusanB> ok for me
<nic1> bye
RESOLUTION: We limit XForms 1.2 requirements to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Feb/0055.html and list optional items in the wiki to be done after first draft, if possible.
<jturner> bye
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