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<trackbot-ng> Date: 19 February 2008
<scribe> scribe: pauld
<gcowe> ok, no problem!
minutes from the last telcon approved
Jonc: we're down to the last 17 patterns
<JonC> List of patterns without example: AttributeFormQualified
pauld: I felt that as far as Basic was concerned, we're done!
gcowe: I've been checking and putting them into CVS on Jon's behalf
pauld: how do we know which ones we can't write examples for?
jonc: formqualified is hard one to hit
<JonC> AttributeFormQualified,ComplexTypeAnyAttribute, ElementFormUnqualified, ExtendedSequenceLaxAny, ExtendedSequenceLaxOther, ExtendedSequenceSkipAny ExtendedSequenceSkipOther ExtendedSequenceStrictAny ExtendedSequenceStrictOther ExtendedSimpleContent MixedComplexContent QualifiedLocalAttributes SequenceAnyStrict SimpleContentAnyAttribute UnionSimpleAndMemberTypes UnionSimpleTypes UnqualifiedLocalElements
pauld: unqualified we can probably ignore, except I know the WSDL 2.0 test suite used them. Nobody in the wild does, and they're not BP
gcowe: we can't really prove unqualified elements, without adding a default namespace
pauld: unless the default
namespace is "" it's not a valid test
... at this point, I'm not worried about running the tests, but good examples in 6/09 would be, er, good
this example looks easy to write an example for?
pauld: can't we add a flag to an example to fill in a default namespace
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - downeyp
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-128 - Enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default namespace [on Paul Downey - due 2008-02-26].
if it's elementFormDefault="unqualified" (the default), then you need a flag to switch that off in the generated WSDL/Schemas.
pauld: I'll have a think about supporting these and other xs:schema attibutes
jonc: last issue is the
... exploding into lots of separate patterns
pauld: how do we know when we're
... want to be driven by the collection
jonc: I'm prepared to do the work
pauld: at this stage we'll accept
patterns, so long as they don't make "Basic" "Advanced"
... i.e don't bu993r it up :)
gcowe: gday, gyear, gmonth, are simple, but don't involve timezones
jonc: it's all paul's fault - wanted to keep it simple as possible!
gcowe: .NET and others have issues for non-timezone instances
<JonC> G pattern <xs:pattern value="--10|--11|--12"/>
pauld: does timezone qualified make sense here?
gcowe: yeah, looks fine as we are
pauld: thanks so much for all this work!
pauld: I'm still working on the
collection, in particular annotating the schema with patterns
detected. turns out to be computing intensive.
... will continue to work on this
we hope to use this to drive patterns
pauld: some sites, you have to sign up, in which case I've taken a snapshot, but that's member-visible
jonc: I see lots of pendings in the report
pauld: jonc, you need to push me to work on the collection!
gcowe: is the collection report upto date?
pauld: rebuilding, now ..
... ah, Origo are all Advanced! cool!
jonc: list looking good
gcowe: will add some more Origo schemas
pauld: if you know of other schemas, let us know!
gcowe: not been running it, waiting until we clear the missing examples list
pauld: sounds absolutely fine!
pauld: not planning on meeting F2F again. sounds fine?
next telcon in three weeks time
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