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<trackbot-ng> Date: 19 February 2008
<scribe> scribe: pauld
<gcowe> ok, no problem!
minutes from the last telcon approved
Jonc: we're down to the last 17 patterns
<JonC> List of patterns without example: AttributeFormQualified
pauld: I felt that as far as Basic was concerned, we're done!
gcowe: I've been checking and putting them into CVS on Jon's behalf
pauld: how do we know which ones we can't write examples for?
jonc: formqualified is hard one to hit
<JonC> AttributeFormQualified,ComplexTypeAnyAttribute, ElementFormUnqualified, ExtendedSequenceLaxAny, ExtendedSequenceLaxOther, ExtendedSequenceSkipAny ExtendedSequenceSkipOther ExtendedSequenceStrictAny ExtendedSequenceStrictOther ExtendedSimpleContent MixedComplexContent QualifiedLocalAttributes SequenceAnyStrict SimpleContentAnyAttribute UnionSimpleAndMemberTypes UnionSimpleTypes UnqualifiedLocalElements
pauld: unqualified we can probably ignore, except I know the WSDL 2.0 test suite used them. Nobody in the wild does, and they're not BP
gcowe: we can't really prove unqualified elements, without adding a default namespace
pauld: unless the default
namespace is "" it's not a valid test
... at this point, I'm not worried about running the tests, but
good examples in 6/09 would be, er, good
<JonC> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/AttributeReferenceUnqualified/
this example looks easy to write an example for?
pauld: can't we add a flag to an example to fill in a default namespace
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - downeyp
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-128 - Enhance the explode_examples.xsl to add a default namespace [on Paul Downey - due 2008-02-26].
if it's elementFormDefault="unqualified" (the default), then you need a flag to switch that off in the generated WSDL/Schemas.
pauld: I'll have a think about supporting these and other xs:schema attibutes
jonc: last issue is the
ExtendedSequence etc
... exploding into lots of separate patterns
pauld: how do we know when we're
done?
... want to be driven by the collection
jonc: I'm prepared to do the work
pauld: at this stage we'll accept
patterns, so long as they don't make "Basic" "Advanced"
... i.e don't bu993r it up :)
gcowe: gday, gyear, gmonth, are simple, but don't involve timezones
jonc: it's all paul's fault - wanted to keep it simple as possible!
pauld: *dunk*
gcowe: .NET and others have issues for non-timezone instances
<JonC> G pattern <xs:pattern value="--10|--11|--12"/>
pauld: does timezone qualified make sense here?
gcowe: yeah, looks fine as we are
pauld: thanks so much for all this work!
pauld: I'm still working on the
collection, in particular annotating the schema with patterns
detected. turns out to be computing intensive.
... will continue to work on this
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/
we hope to use this to drive patterns
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/collection.xml
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=definitions+filetype%3Awsdl&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+filetype%3Axsd&btnG=Search
pauld: some sites, you have to sign up, in which case I've taken a snapshot, but that's member-visible
jonc: I see lots of pendings in the report
pauld: jonc, you need to push me to work on the collection!
gcowe: is the collection report upto date?
pauld: rebuilding, now ..
... ah, Origo are all Advanced! cool!
jonc: list looking good
gcowe: will add some more Origo schemas
pauld: if you know of other schemas, let us know!
gcowe: not been running it, waiting until we clear the missing examples list
pauld: sounds absolutely fine!
pauld: not planning on meeting F2F again. sounds fine?
next telcon in three weeks time
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