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<nick> steven: 15 minutes earlier then before
<nick> so in half an hour
ah, thanks
so at :45
<nick> yes
thanks
time for tea then
<CharlieWiecha> i think the conf dialin is not enabled for this time
<CharlieWiecha> i'm getting an error calling in
10Zakim: 01ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
<unl> can't get in, too
another 15 mins apparently
<CharlieWiecha> we'll probably have to wait until 11, yup
<nick> hmm I can not enter the forms call
<wellsk> me neither
<CharlieWiecha> this also raises good question about our "virtual day"...getting phone access
<nick> this passcode is restricted
<unl> steven, are you able to fix this?
not at this short notice
<John_Boyer> I am talking to a W3C operator now
<John_Boyer> operator says he can fix it now
cool
who was that?
<John_Boyer> asks that team contact sends an email to close the loop, so to speak
oh, ok
<John_Boyer> Name is Josh
who was it?
Ah OK
<wellsk> oops
that did it
Nice drumming wellsk
<Rafael> Regrets from Roger, still on vacation
<nick> zakm, mute me
<klotz> Nice barking, Steven
lol
<John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0008.html
<nick> I'(l be traveling to the states on saterday
<unl> what about hotel reservation?
<nick> who is comming?
<wellsk> Yep -- will do
<wellsk> Keith will take that action
<klotz> ACTION: Steven Pemberton to prepare questionnaire for next F2F. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-441 - Pemberton to prepare questionnaire for next F2F. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2008-01-16].
<klotz> ACTION: Keith Wells to produce F2F info page in wiki based on previous F2F page. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-442 - Wells to produce F2F info page in wiki based on previous F2F page. [on Keith Wells - due 2008-01-16].
Keith, here is the FtF page: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FaceToFace
<wellsk> thanks
<nick> this is the info of the previous meeting in Raleigh : http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2005/09/f2f/
Keith, here is a wiki template: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FtF_2007_09
<wellsk> great
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0085.html
<klotz> RESOLUTION: For the card type, set length restriction of min=2, no max. Insert example of Canadian social insurance number
<klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to perform spec edits and schema edits for card type change and example. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<klotz> Is it this? http://www.w3.org/TR/its/
<CharlieWiecha> * back in 5
<klotz> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to read http://www.w3.org/TR/its/ and contact Felix Sasaki to discuss XForms. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-443 - Klotz to read http://www.w3.org/TR/its/ and contact Felix Sasaki to discuss XForms. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-01-16].
They have numeric attributes of name 'id' but we don't know that they are of type ID
http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions
<klotz> ACTION: Steven Pemberton and John Boyer to continue discussing shortnames for recommendations and drafts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-444 - Pemberton and John Boyer to continue discussing shortnames for recommendations and drafts. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2008-01-16].
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0041.html
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0042.html
<nick> I don't think the events will go to the action
unl wants to speak?
<nick> allowing submission attributes on the send is the same as allowing readonly on input
<nick> (and other mips on controls)
<klotz> ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken and Mark Birbeck to write up submission, submit, and send attributes and child nesting. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-445 - Van den Bleeken and Mark Birbeck to write up submission, submit, and send attributes and child nesting. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-01-16].
<nick> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/
<John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/
<klotz> ACTION: Uli Lissé to collect deferred last call issues from http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/ and put them into the Future Features area of the Wiki. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Uli
<nick> I'm not sure we need instance outside the model, but if the model isn't there you have an implicit instance and when you add a model you could specify if there is an implicit instance, so the first instance isn't the default but the implicit one
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