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Weekly Forms WG Telecon

9 Jan 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
+1.919.254.aaaa, Steven, unl, Rafa, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Leigh_Klotz, wellsk, John_Boyer, CharlieWiecha, +020876aabb, markbirbeck
Regrets
Erik, Joern, Roger
Chair
John
Scribe
Leigh

Contents


 

 

<nick> steven: 15 minutes earlier then before

<nick> so in half an hour

ah, thanks

so at :45

<nick> yes

thanks

time for tea then

<CharlieWiecha> i think the conf dialin is not enabled for this time

<CharlieWiecha> i'm getting an error calling in

10Zakim: 01ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes

<unl> can't get in, too

another 15 mins apparently

<CharlieWiecha> we'll probably have to wait until 11, yup

<nick> hmm I can not enter the forms call

<wellsk> me neither

<CharlieWiecha> this also raises good question about our "virtual day"...getting phone access

<nick> this passcode is restricted

<unl> steven, are you able to fix this?

not at this short notice

<John_Boyer> I am talking to a W3C operator now

<John_Boyer> operator says he can fix it now

cool

who was that?

<John_Boyer> asks that team contact sends an email to close the loop, so to speak

oh, ok

<John_Boyer> Name is Josh

who was it?

Ah OK

<wellsk> oops

that did it

Nice drumming wellsk

<Rafael> Regrets from Roger, still on vacation

<nick> zakm, mute me

<klotz> Nice barking, Steven

lol

<John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0008.html

<nick> I'(l be traveling to the states on saterday

<unl> what about hotel reservation?

<nick> who is comming?

<wellsk> Yep -- will do

<wellsk> Keith will take that action

<klotz> ACTION: Steven Pemberton to prepare questionnaire for next F2F. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-441 - Pemberton to prepare questionnaire for next F2F. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2008-01-16].

<klotz> ACTION: Keith Wells to produce F2F info page in wiki based on previous F2F page. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-442 - Wells to produce F2F info page in wiki based on previous F2F page. [on Keith Wells - due 2008-01-16].

Keith, here is the FtF page: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FaceToFace

<wellsk> thanks

<nick> this is the info of the previous meeting in Raleigh : http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2005/09/f2f/

Keith, here is a wiki template: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/FtF_2007_09

<wellsk> great

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0085.html

<klotz> RESOLUTION: For the card type, set length restriction of min=2, no max. Insert example of Canadian social insurance number

<klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to perform spec edits and schema edits for card type change and example. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John

<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)

<klotz> Is it this? http://www.w3.org/TR/its/

<CharlieWiecha> * back in 5

<klotz> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to read http://www.w3.org/TR/its/ and contact Felix Sasaki to discuss XForms. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-443 - Klotz to read http://www.w3.org/TR/its/ and contact Felix Sasaki to discuss XForms. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-01-16].

They have numeric attributes of name 'id' but we don't know that they are of type ID

http://www.w3.org/2005/05/tr-versions

<klotz> ACTION: Steven Pemberton and John Boyer to continue discussing shortnames for recommendations and drafts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-444 - Pemberton and John Boyer to continue discussing shortnames for recommendations and drafts. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2008-01-16].

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0041.html

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0042.html

<nick> I don't think the events will go to the action

unl wants to speak?

<nick> allowing submission attributes on the send is the same as allowing readonly on input

<nick> (and other mips on controls)

<klotz> ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken and Mark Birbeck to write up submission, submit, and send attributes and child nesting. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-445 - Van den Bleeken and Mark Birbeck to write up submission, submit, and send attributes and child nesting. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-01-16].

<nick> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/

<John_Boyer> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/

<klotz> ACTION: Uli Liss&eacute; to collect deferred last call issues from http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/ and put them into the Future Features area of the Wiki. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Uli

<nick> I'm not sure we need instance outside the model, but if the model isn't there you have an implicit instance and when you add a model you could specify if there is an implicit instance, so the first instance isn't the default but the implicit one

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: John Boyer to perform spec edits and schema edits for card type change and example. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Keith Wells to produce F2F info page in wiki based on previous F2F page. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Leigh Klotz to read http://www.w3.org/TR/its/ and contact Felix Sasaki to discuss XForms. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken and Mark Birbeck to write up submission, submit, and send attributes and child nesting. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven Pemberton and John Boyer to continue discussing shortnames for recommendations and drafts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven Pemberton to prepare questionnaire for next F2F. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Uli Liss&eacute; to collect deferred last call issues from http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xforms-issues/ and put them into the Future Features area of the Wiki. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-forms-minutes.html#action07]
 
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