<Schnitz> john, why interesting?

<Schnitz> ah ok

<klotz> redialing

<John_Boyer> scribe: Leigh

<wellsk> unoffical YAH!

<Schnitz> +1

<Schnitz> cool

<Schnitz> congrats

could we have a quick look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0084.html

about the actions

<Schnitz> I agree

<Schnitz> %-)

<Schnitz> ok

<Steven> ok

<ebruchez> I think it is a good idea

you can get rrs

maybe we should add the rss feed link to our homepage

<ebruchez> then we should send instructions to www-forms about how to subscribe to the RSS feed

fo all lists there is a link to the rss feed on the homepage but NOT for public-forrms@w3.org

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#www-forms

link needs to be http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/feed.rss

<klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to update home page with link to RSS feed for public-forms. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/28-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John

<trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Nov/0000.html

<klotz> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to summarize group activity monthly to www-forms, starting this month, and include pointers to www-forms RSS feed and archives. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/28-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-435 - Klotz to summarize group activity monthly to www-forms, starting this month, and include pointers to www-forms RSS feed and archives. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2007-12-05].

uli replied, to it

when you have async submission, a bit of a stretch

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Nov/0004.html

<Schnitz> you may

<Schnitz> :-)

agreed

when you have a timer for example

(delayed dispatch of events)

<markbirbeck> but if you do a setfocus, you'll get a DOMFocusIn event...if you do toggle you'll get selected.

<markbirbeck> ...err...exactly. :)

ack, me

<Zakim> Steven, you wanted to ask about www.w3.org/TR/xforms 'Latest' link

<klotz> ACTION: Uli Liss&eacute; to respond to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Nov/0000.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/28-forms-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Uli

<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Mar/0060.html

you can't embed that in an xml

that was impression too

<Schnitz> :-)

<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features

<Schnitz> (glad I asked before doing something wrong :-)

<markbirbeck> RFC3023 says "the use of the charset parameter is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED", and it also specifies a rule that "[i]f an application/xml entity is received where the charset parameter is omitted, no information is being provided about the charset by the MIME Content-Type header."

xslt does go xslt1.0

and latest is also goes to 1.0

<markbirbeck> That's from http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/.

http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt20/

http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath20/

<markbirbeck> c.f. http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3023.txt:

<markbirbeck> "8.20 INCONSISTENT EXAMPLE: Text/xml with UTF-8 Charset

<markbirbeck> Content-type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"

<markbirbeck> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

<markbirbeck> Since the charset parameter is provided in the Content-Type header,

<markbirbeck> MIME and XML processors MUST treat the enclosed entity as UTF-8

<markbirbeck> encoded. That is, the "iso-8859-1" encoding MUST be ignored.

<markbirbeck> Processors generating XML MIME entities MUST NOT label conflicting

<markbirbeck> charset information between the MIME Content-Type and the XML

<markbirbeck> declaration."

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/

sounds good

I made a section XForms simplification

<John_Boyer> 28http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features

maybe these are candidates for XForms 1.2

(I just moved them to the bottom, not creating pages for them)

szakim, mute me

we currently don't support comm between models

<klotz> instances, not models

before John, was saying as if they created seperate models

instance() gets the deafult instance

if you have xforms 1.1 then those will not work in 1.2

<Schnitz> thanks

<Schnitz> bye

bye

<klotz> markbirbeck I put your remarks in the wiki.

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