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<toufic> are we starting?
<fjh> rotationMaryann, Toufic, Prasad, Asir, Dave, Frederick
<fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Aug/0034.html
<fsasaki> scribe: maryann
<scribe> scribeNick: maryann
<fjh> chair: Frederick Hirsch
frederick: regrets for next week, so maryann can you chair next week and report?
yes
<fjh> rotation Maryann, Toufic, Prasad, Asir, Dave, Frederick
frederick: need a volunteer for scribe next week
<asir> ACTION: everyone to work on the eventual WS-Policy errata format and report back to the WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-359 - Work on the eventual WS-Policy errata format and report back to the WG [on Everyone Everyone - due 2007-09-19].
<fjh> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/open
<asir> ACTION: everyone to refresh the references in Primer and Guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-360 - Refresh the references in Primer and Guidelines [on Everyone Everyone - due 2007-09-19].
AI, 100 is tickler
<asir> ACTION: everyone to prep a plan for moving Primer and Guidelines doc to Last Call [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-361 - Prep a plan for moving Primer and Guidelines doc to Last Call [on Everyone Everyone - due 2007-09-19].
AI #100 should be closed
AI #352
asir: we need to update the uri's
AI 331 and 352 still open
asir: someone needs to assess whether these are still open
frederick: can you do both?
asir: can't commit to make changes today
frederick: please reassigne 331 to everyone
AI #352 should be closed
AI #353 - toufic
<toufic> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jul/0038.html
toufic: I looked at this and the question i have is ...
... section5.3.2 was dropped
<toufic> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/353
<toufic> http://www.w3.org/mid/DFBABEE2-0371-44EE-AEAB-81CF0BA0CA5F@nokia.com
<asir> here is the description of 353 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Aug/0015.html
<toufic> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Aug/0034.html
<toufic> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jul/0038.html
<fjh> need to edit text to match http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jul/0038.html
<asir> Chris' proposal message July 38 on the archive
<asir> amendments are at http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-ws-policy-minutes.html#item11
<asir> Text is in Section 5.3.2
<fjh> replacing the last paragraph with the folloowing:
<fjh> If the assertion author had not provided for the wsp:Optional attribute to
<fjh> be included on the assertion, then policy expression authors would be forced to express the optionality of a behavior as two explicit policy alternatives, one with and one without that assertion when including assertions of that type in their policies.
<fjh> and replacing the foo:Bar assertion with a real assertion such as wsrmp:RMAssertion
<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Jun/0095.html
<fjh> (that was the amendment)
frederick: the editors agree to the following to resolve issues 353: the text in the proposal from chris plus the ammendment will be updated to section 5.3.2.
<fjh> toufic has action and will also update email thread
AI 354, 357- frederick
AI 355 & 356- prasad
AI 355, 356 is taken by prasad
AI 357 - taken by frederick
<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2006/05/ws-addr-errata.html
AI 358 - taken by maryann
felix posted a reference from addressing for errata
this is related to action item 359
<fjh> addressing errata page shows changes in a red-line format
<fsasaki> information to provide:
<fsasaki> Each entry has the following information:
<fsasaki> * A unique entry number
<fsasaki> * The date it was added to the errata page.
<fsasaki> * The section referred to.
<fsasaki> * A description of the problem and correction if applicable. Changes to the text of the spec are indicated thus: deleted text, new text, modified text .
<fsasaki> * A rationale for making the change (not required for editorial errata).
frederick: what determines substantive or editorial
felix: that is a determiniation of the WG
... the editors only determine how to maintain it
asir: what is the task?
felix: this is an html page to track proposed changes
frederick: the working group determines what to accept
felix: the editors just edit the page
... how to deal with the errata is a different question
asir: maybe we should have a shadow page
frederick: its just a manual process to move it to the public page
felix: it just needs someon on the editorial team to edit it
<fjh> simply html page that is checked in to cvs to display on public page
toufic: needs to drop
<fjh> could have two cvs checkins to move from one place to another to have staging, not clear if needed
touric: sent a note in reply to the thread from paul
frederick: we still need to come up with a plan to get guidelines & primer to last call but we need to move
that to the agenda for next week
... the question today about the errata is needed for the WG
... proposing that we respond to the WG to
accept the format as per ws-addressing, and the editors will manage the edits, and there is still some discussion of exactly how to do this
asir: how is xslt dealing with this?
<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2005/01/soap12-mtom-errata
felix: xmlp is using the same format
<fsasaki> (except change marks)
<fjh> Summary: agree to format used by WS-Addressing, including red-lined format. Editors will mange edits, all editorial team has access.
<fjh> Mechanism is to edit a single HTML file maintained in CVS and once checked in visible to web.
felix: ask the working group if they want staging
<fjh> Decision by WG/Chairs needed regarding staging.
frederick to send email to WG --and Maryann to point to this mail as reporter next week
frederick: AOB?
... next call we'll pick up with anymore issues and a plan to get to REC
asir: by next week hopefully all the issues will be closed
<fjh> proposal - plan to get work done by 21st.
:-)
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