W3C

TSD TF

14 Aug 2007

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
CarlosV, Michael, Christophe, Vangelis, Reinhard, Tim
Regrets
CarlosI, Shadi
Chair
CarlosV, Christophe
Scribe
Michael

Contents


Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft:

cs: a number of test cases have been migrated with scripts
... so far 57
... need to start structure review

rr: have begun uploading, still working out the kinks
... what about tests that are already in wiki?

cs: will need to be updated to new id and test filenames
... won't be removed from repository

cv: why can't remove tests?

mc: URI persistence policy, need to not break links etc.

cv: have a deprecated status?

cs: have rejected, but for WG rejects
... could add a status

RESOLUTION: create status "deprecated" and apply to tests that are no longer valid

<Christophe> Test samples for SC 2.5.1: sc2.5.1_l1_002 and sc2.5.1_l1_003

<Christophe> ... and sc2.5.1_l1_004

mc: why using SC number instead of filename instead of ID, leading to this need to change?

cs: inherited from Bentoweb

mc: propose we not worry about the tests whose IDs need to change until can discuss URI persistence with Shadi; continue uploading knowing might change IDs (automatable)

cs: next step is to start structure review process

rr: what about test cases that need jsp?

mc: unsure status of action checking with systeam

cs: need clear idea of where Java server needs to run, maintenance, etc.

<scribe> ACTION: MichaelC to investigate JSP server with Systeam [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]

mc: may need to hold back on uploading these test cases until we know

cs: roughly 20 / 466 test cases
... have found issues with some of the tests, sent message to list
... would like them fixed, then can start review process
... also have a bunch of test samples in the repository that need to be updated
... question of whether to wait to do review process until those are done, or do in parallel

mc: propose in parallel

rr: ones that need updating, each submitter should update their own?

cs, cv: yes

RESOLUTION: everyone keep uploading test cases, except JSP and those without a testcase mapping

Review Process

cs: Bentoweb people should check for issues in tests in repository
... non Bentoweb people start checking tests submitted earlier, against previous WD of WCAG

cv: can we get WCAG WG members to help?

mc: might be able to ask a few people

<scribe> ACTION: MichaelC to ask selected members of WCAG WG to help with review process [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]

mc: how is review conducted?

cv, cs: update wiki, also should send note to mailing list

cv: document says to notify author only
... propose also notify list

mc: which tests are the older tests that are ready for review?

cs: can make a list

<scribe> ACTION: Christophe to create list of tests ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]

mc: recommend dividing blocks of tests assigned to "reviewer 1, reviewer 2" etc. and plugging reviewers into those slots

<scribe> ACTION: Christophe to divide list of tests by proposed reviewer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]

mc: reluctant to commit to doing review because covering for Ben, but will try to find others
... Tim, can do a batch?

tb: yes

mc: need to chase reviewers to make sure they get their review done for next meeting

cv: can chase once get names

mc: chase me for names if needed

tb: these are structure reviews or content reviews?

cs: structure

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Christophe to create list of tests ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Christophe to divide list of tests by proposed reviewer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: MichaelC to ask selected members of WCAG WG to help with review process [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: MichaelC to investigate JSP server with Systeam [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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