W3C

SWEO Telco

25 Jul 2007

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Attendees

Present
kingsley, leo, susie, dunja, benjamin, lee, ivan
Regrets
danny, paula
Chair
susie
Scribe
bengee, susie

Contents


flyer

susie would like to provide some additions

objective: to get the flyer finished during the next few weeks

bengee sent mail to the list about maybe discussing things too much, leading to a delay

susie suggests to have a flyer-only meeting

scribe: then report back to the group
... then aproach the comm team

dunja happy about proposal to move things forward that way

possible problem: forthcoming w3c semweb branding

ivan doesn't think it'll have an effect on the flyer design

basic flyer design should be ale to stay as is, maybe a/the semweb logo will be added

scribe: a color tweak might be needed/helpful

to be in line with (exact) w3c ones

logo/semweb branding

there was a meeting with the comm team last week

progress is made

scribe: there'll be a general semweb branding consisting of a logo and a color palette
... with the possibility to create tech logos w/o conflicting with the higher level branding

flyer (2)

flyer meeting date will be coordinated via email

use cases / case studies

no news

scribe: trying to contact/encourage additional people

info gathering

leo reports

scribe: endpoint is up
... minor bug fixing going on
... no major issues, just didn't start utlizing it really
... suggests to do some tests/use cases for the portal

kingsley preaches to the converted

scribe: wonders about interface structure
... thinks the approach is right, but it's not clear who is goingn to write the view/app layer

danja suggested to replicate the data and use a (standalone) browser like longwell

which might work, but a more light-weight (off-endpoint) solution would be more interesting/clean

leo to create some test scripts

scribe: for next sweo call (in 2 weeks)

susie mentions people who are working on a portal, suggests giving access and maintaining a list of people working with the sweo data

scribe: access is given already (via endpoint)

kidehen suggests to divide the "deliverables" with task one (access) being done, and a/many portal/s as a different activity

<leobard> all the people shold be listed here:

<leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataSources

scribe: might make sense to "outsource" the portal creation
... might happen automatically anyway

LeeF thinks data + endpoint is not enough for effective outreach

scribe: human-oriented thingy should be available, no matter if created by sweo or third parties

<Susie> The Semantic Report portal: http://semanticreport.com/

<leobard> Ivan, they are in section "Information on Communities and Outreach Organizations"

ivan thinks wiki might be extneded with a page for people re-using the data (not DataSources)

scribe: not sure about bandwidth to create a portal from internal sweo energies
... happy to be proven wrong

leo suggests to create a portal creation tutorial instead

<leobard> I also suggest that we, instead of writing a portal, we write the content that would live on such portal

<leobard> for example, we write guides for "beginners guide for the semantic web"

susie asks the group to think about priorities

scribe: what to focus on in the upcoming weeks/months
... to define some (achievable) next actions

community projects

<leobard> rehi

<Susie> Leo can publish URI document as a SWEO note.

<leobard> cya

<Susie> Waiting for feeddback from Richard on the note.

<LeeF> I don't know if we want to open this can of worms, but the SW HCLS IG recently had a huge thread on URIs - do we want to solicit comments from them?

<leobard> my uri paper sums up the TAG findings regarding http-range-14, so its on safe ground. And its a tutorial. I would not consider any ohter sources besides TAG :-))

<leobard> in this URI things, there is a whole supermarket of "can of worms"

<Zakim> LeeF, you wanted to ruminate on education and outreach

<LeeF> I think we should go back to 8-character identifiers for everything - not much room to disagree on schemes there

<leobard> the linked data document is a little different. we should make one tutorial that gives the links to the best documents

<leobard> +1 to kingsley, we can tie the stuff together

<LeeF> tie the stuff together using a SW info portal?

<leobard> LeeF: portal would be cool, but I doubt we can stem that. One tutorial we write together in

<leobard> one html page should be a good start.

<leobard> kingsley, do you mean that http-range-14 is bad for doing evangelism and outreach? (hm)

<leobard> kingsley: perhaps we can add one good sentence to the "cool uris" document saying "HTTP uris are one way to identify resource, other, equally valid appraoches are urn, etc etc"


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