W3C

ERT WG

30 May 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Johannes, CarlosI, Reinhard
Regrets
CarlosV
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
CarlosI

Contents


New resources for review

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0023

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0025

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0026^

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0020

SAZ: several staff moving around we should look at
... mobileOK, mainly two thinks to review: potential accessibility issues and compatibility with EARL

JK: 2.3.3 could be a test itself

<scribe> ACTION: everybody to review by next week and send possible ERT WG relevant issues to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action01]

SAZ: POWDER use cases and requirementes directly published as a note
... overlap with our work

<scribe> ACTION: everybody to review the POWDER note and comment any thought with the rest of the group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action02]

RR: any background on POWDER

?

SAZ: basically metadata to label resources from different perspectives: offensive content, mobile friendly, accesible, etc.
... several groups would like to use FOAF
... doubts about persistence
... it looks like FOAF guys are now moving in the direction we need
... need to be sure about FOAF before CR

<scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at FOAF and see in what direction are they moving [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: start to look at the EARL guide and help synchronize with the schema [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action04]

SAZ: contributions to any section are welcome

RR: could write drafts of some of them

SAZ: be sure to coordinate with CV
... also a new WCAG2 WD online we should review at some point

EARL 1.0 Schema comments

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0027

SAZ: proposal to allow extensibility of outcome values

CI: several concerns about allowing "free" extensibility

[discussion]

SAZ: better to continue the discussion on the list

RR: agree with CI

JK: need to talk about it

SAZ: move to #12
... proposal to accept the comment

RESOLUTION: proposal accepted

SAZ: move to #13
... proposal to accept the issue and revise all the terms

RESOLUTION: proposal accepted

SAZ: now #14
... also editorial, proposal to accept it

RESOLUTION: proposal accepted

SAZ: #21
... outside of the scope
... maybe later in the WG

RESOLUTION: reject the proposal

SAZ: is something that will probably be done anyway but outside of EARL scope
... #22
... again out of scope, more related with test descriptions and "evidences"
... proposal to reject

RESOLUTION: reject the proposal

SAZ: #29
... several efforts before but need to clarify more
... proposal to accept the suggestion

RESOLUTION: proposal accepted

SAZ: #7
... an interesting one, something to look at in next telecons
... JK's turn

HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0019.html

JK: topic: timestamps in request and response
... discussed before about the proper properties, about it's something that should be at HTTP in RDF and about what time to choose (client, server, any proxy...)

CI: timestamps are nowhere in the HTTP specification
... even if they are useful, they are not part of HTTP

SAZ: we are already recording things outside the HTTP specification, e.g. Connection class
... the question is if it's important enough
... the simpler approach is a dc:date when the request is initiated
... use case, the crawler and the evaluation are sepparated process
... several WCAG 2 test are "time-dependant"

JK: maybe have a look at what properties could be feasible and make a recommendation

RR: dc:date is the most obvious one

<scribe> ACTION: JK to make an specific proposal on timestamping [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action05]

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0024.html

SAZ: have a look at the open threads on the list

RR: background?

JK: we got some comments on the last drafts about complexity of the structure

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at FOAF and see in what direction are they moving [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to review by next week and send possible ERT WG relevant issues to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: everybody to review the POWDER note and comment any thought with the rest of the group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: JK to make an specific proposal on timestamping [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: start to look at the EARL guide and help synchronize with the schema [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/30-er-minutes.html#action04]
 
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