W3C

SWEO IG weekly telco

16 May 2007

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Attendees

Present
+44.190.827.aaaa, martind, Ivan, Kingsley, Susie, Jeff_Schiffel, kjetilk, benjamin, Melli, Leo, wing, LeeF, Uldis, Susie, Danny
Regrets
Paula, Dunja
Chair
Susie
Scribe
Danny, Kingsley, Leo

Contents


 Community Projects

<danja_> susie: start with community projects

<danja_> kjetilk: friend chris hacked up trust module

<danja_> kidehen: open linking data at www2007 with timbl & co

<danja_> kidehen: take away, linked data creating fooundation for broader ?..

<danja_> kidehen: size of audience, message out going out across realms

<danja_> ivan has put up another page

<danja_> on wiki

danja: continues comments re. the gravitation pull of the Linked Data Project during WWW2007 e.g the YAGO project which is now part of the effort

<LeeF> community projects page

TimBL, Chris, and Kingsley committed to producing Tutorial and demo material re. Linked Data

Susie seeks update from Bengee re. Knowee

Bengee indicates project is in progress, infrastructure is now in place

kjetilk indicates the POWDER use cases are in progress

Susie indicates community projects are progressing nicely

WWW2007 Update

Susie commences WWW2007 update

<LeeF> Semantic Web was second-most submitted topic at www07 (second to search)

Susie indicates workshop and demo sessions on the HCLS tracks where well attended.

<danja_> about 1/3 of the dev track submissions were semweb

Talks about neurocommons demo herself and Alan Ruttenberg:

http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo

Ivan emphasis the impact of the HCLS session and its impact

<leobard> scribe: giovanni just said "thank you" to the work presented at www

Giovanni exemplified impact of demo with his comments: Thank You !

Susie indicates that progress continues

Susie observed that scalability of tools are on the rise e.g. Steve Harris of Garlik talked about his Triple Store and the 15 Billion mark

Scalability is becoming less of an issue

<LeeF> Exhibit!

<LeeF> (and friends)

danja: comments on the Grandma element of the Linked Data tools and Semantic Web clients

LeeF: comments on the meshing of SIMILE effort with some of the more data oriented projects

Susie: observed that people tried to determine if they where on the formal and mapped data generation or linking and mapping data side of the fence re. RDF instance Data

Ivan: comments on Potluck and the impact of David's demo.

<_uldis> re. scalability - agree it becomes less of an issue. my colleague Andreas recently demoed a triple store w. 7 billion triples and fast querying.

Susie concludes that WWW2007 was very successful etc..

<LeeF> dfhuynh also indicated that they're working to incorporate Exhibit UI-type stuff into Longwell as an answer to working with large amounts of data

<leobard> kingsley: put the link here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/HowtoPublish

<leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/ClassificationOntology

Logo

<leobard> ivan: if we open the logo discussion, it takes endlessly

<leobard> whats wrong with these logos?

<leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas

<leobard> did I miss smthg?

<ivan> leo, there was a discussion+decision to make semantic web logos in general rather than only SWEO ones

<LeeF> leobard, I believe they're talking about general semantic web logos (and specific for other projects, such as GRDDL, SPARQL, etc.)

<leobard> thx, i missed that

Susie: talks about logo options: wait for Bengee or open up to general logo competition like GRDDL effort

Ivan indicates he likes Bengee's work but emphasizes this is a personal opinion

<bengee> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Logos/SemWebLogoIdeas

<leobard> bengee says that the logos have simple basic shapes that can be reused for many logos there

<leobard> @bengee: btw, do you know the cool how-to-design-a-logo-of-letters by ba`? http://www.bamagazine.com/7ecHEsLand.asp

Ivan and Susie provide Bengee with some insights re. logo aesthetics

<leobard> Ivan says he was at a lokhead martin meeting showing semweb

<leobard> ivan says the use cases were interesting for these people.

Use cases

<mannamal> Ivan, I will likely have a use case from a telecom company - we just heard of someone successfully running a live project using databases and RDF. I am going to ask them to provide a use case. They clearly say that SW helped them save time and money :-)

<leobard> ivan says this is a good sign for the use cases. we have two that should be reviewed

<mannamal> mannamal is Melli by the way.

<leobard> susie says she received the one by the chinese medicine portal

<leobard> susie says she did not get the one from renault

<leobard> possible action items seem to get the use case from renault

<leobard> ivan says susie found another possible use case from pfitzer

<leobard> ivan says that in Banff he talked to daniel ... from vodafone and he would defintly want to do a usecase for us

<leobard> ivan says there is one from IBM on a customer in china

<leobard> ivan says the guy who we met in oslo / works in spain, city of zaragoza, they agreed to send him a use case

<danja_> Daniel Appelquist, vodaphone

<leobard> who was talking before susie? didn'T get the name....

<leobard> question about Pfitzer contact, is it a UK contact or US?

<leobard> its the same person in both us & uk

<leobard> ivan says there is one more from sun.

<leobard> susie and ivan say that having the selection is enourmously useful

<leobard> ivan asks kingsley: your customers, can we get use cases there?

<leobard> kingsley says he will try.

Conference listings

<leobard> susie brings up the topic that we evaluated upcoming conferences where to go and evangelize

<leobard> for this year, susie has took off the meetings that already happened.

<leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences

<leobard> susie says for next year, we would need more meetings

<LeeF> Susie, did you put the info into an Exhibit? :-)

<leobard> susie created categories for meetings, like life sciences, general technology, .... with the goal to "infiltrate" the meetings.

<leobard> the database and data conferences could be interesteing

<leobard> call for participation from SWEOs: please add more meetings to the list

<mannamal> Susie, several of us will be at SemTech07 next week, and it looks as though there are several use cases being presented there. I am sure you will be introducing them all to SWEO, and those of us who are there could help do that.

<leobard> ACTION: people to add conferences to the wiki page http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/16-SWEO-minutes.html#action01]

F2F timing

<leobard> susie asks if we can do the next f2f at cambridge

<leobard> ivan says that this is timed close to ISWC, causing jetlag

<leobard> susie asks if anybody on the phone is in the cambridge meeting

<leobard> danny asks if there is anybody going to the swig meeting

<leobard> susie: we should start thinking about other options for a f2f

<leobard> susie: another workshop about semweb and databases in cambridge in october?

<mannamal> I need to leave now. A f2f in Cambridge of course works nicely for me.

<danja_> positive side - the year is getting saturated with SW conferences ;-)

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: people to add conferences to the wiki page http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/16-SWEO-minutes.html#action01]
 
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