ws policy WG (editors) -- 28 Mar 2007

<fsasaki> asir, zakim is back

<fsasaki> but we may want to use the bridge you provided

<fsasaki> asir2, zakim is back

<fsasaki> but we may want to use the bridge you provided

<asir2> Scribe: Asir S Vedamuthu

<asir2> ScribeNick: asir

<asir2> Meeting: WS-Policy Editors Conference Call

<asir2> Chair: David Orchard

<asir2> ScribeNick: asir2

<maryann> what # are we using?

<maryann> dialing now

Administrivia

Arrangements for next meeting: Toufic (chair), Frederick (fallback chair)

Prasad (scribe and report)

<scribe> ACTION: David to reach out to Toufic and Prasad re next week conference call arrangements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Reach out to Toufic and Prasad re next week conference call arrangements [on David Orchard - due 2007-04-04].

Review of open actions

See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/open

Asir closed 213, 214 and 215

Maryann and Felix closed their completed actions

See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/268

The above is a WG action

Frederick: we may have to split this complex actions into multiple simple ones

<scribe> ACTION: everyone to Think about proposal from paul: taking a subset of the BPs and see how long it will take them to give revised sections back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Think about proposal from paul: taking a subset of the BPs and see how long it will take them to give revised sections back [on Everyone Everyone - due 2007-04-04].

[Looking at last week discussion topics]

Asir summarized our last week discussion on - How to release a version of the scenarios and test files?

Summary of diff generation - Felix sets up the diff target and editors are encouraged to run the target to verify the files

<dorchard> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0069.html

Action-222 and Issue 3989

Two things: some style sheet work and the actual content

Should the style sheet work should be done first?

Dave: may be felix could look at the style sheet part

Asir: can be done in parallel

Frederick: needs to know the new vocabulary

Maryann: let's set some milestones and work backwards

Asir: what are the milestones

Next WG F2F - May 23 and 24

Maryann: be done for the May F2F

Dave: offered to do to do some amount of work this week, willing to wait

Discussing the contribution

Maryann: Section 7 doesn't illustrate how to author assertions

Frederick: table maps good practices to existing text and shows what good practices need explantory text

Asir: for format, all we need is a new element or attribute in the XML spec
... we can use <p> until the new element or attribute arrives

<dorchard> <p role="practice">Provide Forwards Compatibility Override Rule: Languages with forwards compatibility support SHOULD provide an override for indicating incompatible extensions.</p>

Frederick: why don't we use the new attribute

Dave: am going to use it

<dorchard> actions: get style sheet to format properly, update text

<dorchard> generate the list..

Dave: how to generate the list, we need style sheet work for that

<dorchard> style sheet for generating the list

Asir: each substantial section would carry a problem statement & description, one or more good practices and one or more examples to illustrate the good practices
... see the contributed model

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to look into updating the stylesheets / xmlspec to accomodate the new attribute to capture good practices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Look into updating the stylesheets / xmlspec to accomodate the new attribute to capture good practices [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-04-04].

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to look into setting up stylesheets to summarize good practices upfront - say after the table of contents or introduction [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-224 - Look into setting up stylesheets to summarize good practices upfront - say after the table of contents or introduction [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-04-04].

When readers come back .. they usually look for the list

Resolution: INITIAL location for the summary is a new section 1.1 Good Practices

We'll move to a subsequent section, if needed

Style sheet work in a couple of weeks

Dave: in parallel, we can start working on the content
... an interim draft that includes re-structuring existing content

<Frederick> but does not include new best practices that are not present

Dave: target for the interim draft is 3 weeks from today

Felix: will provide all the stylesheet bits by April 6th

Maryann: and then we will keep the WG updated on the new explanatory text
... editors have to step up to own sub sections in 4

<Frederick> Can do 4.5, optional behvaiou

<Frederick> aviours

<maryann> i will do 4.3

<Frederick> I will take section 4.5 in guidelines, optional behaviors

<scribe> ACTION: David to summarize the GL re-structuring discussion to Prasad [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-225 - Summarize the GL re-structuring discussion to Prasad [on David Orchard - due 2007-04-04].

Maryann: need volunteers for sub sections in 4
... offered to do 4.3

Frederick: offered to take 4.5

Asir offered to take 4.4

We need editors to own 4.3.4, 5.2, 4.1, 4.6, 4.8

<scribe> ACTION: asir to summarize the team ownership of sub sections in Section 4 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-226 - Summarize the team ownership of sub sections in Section 4 [on Asir Vedamuthu - due 2007-04-04].

And ask for volunteers

- DRAFT -

ws policy WG (editors)

28 Mar 2007

Attendees

Contents

Administrivia

Review of open actions

Action-222 and Issue 3989

Summary of Action Items

Scribe.perl diagnostic output