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17:52:43 <fsasaki> meeting: ws policy WG (editors)
17:53:23 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Mar/0191.html
17:53:28 <fsasaki> chair: dorchard
17:53:34 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
17:59:24 <fsasaki> asir, zakim is back
17:59:38 <fsasaki> but we may want to use the bridge you provided
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18:00:23 <fsasaki> asir2, zakim is back
18:00:24 <fsasaki> but we may want to use the bridge you provided
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18:05:14 <asir2> Scribe: Asir S Vedamuthu
18:05:14 <asir2> ScribeNick: asir
18:05:14 <asir2> Meeting: WS-Policy Editors Conference Call
18:05:14 <asir2> Chair: David Orchard
18:05:25 <asir2> ScribeNick: asir2
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18:06:41 <maryann> what # are we using?
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18:09:10 <maryann> dialing now
18:10:30 <asir2> Present+ Dave
18:10:34 <asir2> Present+ Asir
18:10:38 <asir2> Present+ Feli
18:10:44 <asir2> Present+ Felix
18:10:48 <asir2> Present+ Frederick
18:10:55 <asir2> Present+ Maryann
18:11:04 <asir2> Regrets: Prasad and Toufic
18:12:06 <asir2> Topic: Administrivia
18:13:30 <asir2> Arrangements for next meeting: Toufic (chair), Frederick (fallback chair)
18:13:44 <asir2> Prasad (scribe and report)
18:14:14 <asir2> Action: David to reach out to Toufic and Prasad re next week conference call arrangements
18:14:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Reach out to Toufic and Prasad re next week conference call arrangements [on David Orchard - due 2007-04-04].
18:14:27 <asir2> Topic: Review of open actions
18:14:45 <asir2> See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicyeds/actions/open
18:16:47 <asir2> Asir closed 213, 214 and 215
18:17:26 <asir2> Maryann and Felix closed their completed actions
18:18:43 <asir2> See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/268
18:18:50 <asir2> The above is a WG action
18:19:10 <asir2> Frederick: we may have to split this complex actions into multiple simple ones
18:19:25 <asir2> Action: everyone to Think about proposal from paul: taking a subset of the BPs and see how long it will take them to give revised sections back
18:19:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Think about proposal from paul: taking a subset of the BPs and see how long it will take them to give revised sections back [on Everyone Everyone - due 2007-04-04].
18:22:32 <asir2> [Looking at last week discussion topics]
18:27:11 <asir2> Asir summarized our last week discussion on - How to release a version of the scenarios and test files?
18:29:20 <asir2> Summary of diff generation - Felix sets up the diff target and editors are encouraged to run the target to verify the files
18:29:39 <dorchard> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy/2007Mar/0069.html
18:29:41 <asir2> Topic: Action-222 and Issue 3989
18:30:17 <asir2> Two things: some style sheet work and the actual content
18:30:44 <asir2> Should the style sheet work should be done first?
18:31:21 <asir2> Dave: may be felix could look at the style sheet part
18:32:28 <asir2> Asir: can be done in parallel
18:32:41 <asir2> Frederick: needs to know the new vocabulary
18:33:45 <asir2> Maryann: let's set some milestones and work backwards
18:33:55 <asir2> Asir: what are the milestones
18:34:17 <asir2> Next WG F2F - May 23 and 24
18:34:44 <asir2> Maryann: be done for the May F2F
18:35:11 <asir2> Dave: wanted to do some amount of work this week, willing to wait
18:37:23 <asir2> Discussing the contribution
18:37:42 <asir2> Maryann: Section 7 doesn't illustrate how to author assertions
18:40:13 <asir2> Frederick: table maps good practices to existing text and shows what good practices need explantory text
18:41:56 <asir2> Asir: for format, all we need is a new element or attribute in the XML spec
18:42:10 <asir2> Asir: we can use <p> until the new element or attribute arrives
18:42:15 <dorchard> 			<p role="practice">Provide Forwards Compatibility Override Rule: Languages with forwards compatibility support SHOULD provide an override for indicating incompatible extensions.</p>
18:42:49 <asir2> Frederick: why don't we use the new attribute
18:42:53 <asir2> Dave: am going to use it
18:43:19 <dorchard> actions: get style sheet to format properly, update text
18:43:35 <dorchard> generate the list..
18:43:50 <asir2> Dave: how to generate the list, we need style sheet work for that
18:43:51 <dorchard> style sheet for generating the list
18:45:30 <asir2> Asir: each substantial section would carry a problem statement & description, one or more good practices and one or more examples to illustrate the good practices
18:45:35 <asir2> Asir: see the contributed model
18:46:48 <asir2> Action: Felix to look into updating the stylesheets / xmlspec to accomodate the new attribute to capture good practices
18:46:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Look into updating the stylesheets / xmlspec to accomodate the new attribute to capture good practices [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-04-04].
18:47:27 <asir2> Action: Felix to look into setting up stylesheets to summarize good practices upfront - say after the table of contents or introduction
18:47:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-224 - Look into setting up stylesheets to summarize good practices upfront - say after the table of contents or introduction [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-04-04].
18:50:47 <asir2> When readers come back .. they usually look for the list
18:51:52 <asir2> Resolution: INITIAL location for the summary is a new section 1.1 Good Practices
18:52:14 <asir2> We'll move to a subsequent section, if needed
18:53:10 <asir2> Style sheet work in a couple of weeks
18:53:31 <asir2> Dave: in parallel, we can start working on the content
18:54:42 <asir2> Dave: an interim draft that includes re-structuring existing content
18:56:19 <Frederick> but does not include new best practices that are not present
18:56:19 <asir2> Dave: target for the interim draft is 3 weeks from today
18:56:59 <asir2> Felix: will provide all the stylesheet bits by April 7th
18:57:51 <asir2> Maryann: and then we will keep the WG updated on the new explanatory text
18:58:47 <fsasaki> s/7th/6th/
18:58:59 <asir2> Maryann: editors have to step up to own sub sections in 4
18:59:24 <Frederick> Can do 4.5, optional behvaiou
18:59:26 <Frederick> aviours
18:59:59 <maryann> i will do  4.3
19:00:19 <Frederick> I will take section 4.5 in guidelines, optional behaviors
19:00:40 <asir2> Action: David to summarize the GL re-structuring discussion to Prasad
19:00:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-225 - Summarize the GL re-structuring discussion to Prasad [on David Orchard - due 2007-04-04].
19:01:03 <asir2> Maryann: need volunteers for sub sections in 4
19:01:43 <asir2> Maryann: wanted 4.3
19:01:50 <asir2> Frederick: wanted 4.5
19:02:02 <Frederick> s/wanted/offered to take
19:02:02 <asir2> s/wanted/offered to do/
19:02:11 <asir2> s/wanted/offered to do/
19:04:25 <asir2> Asir offered to take 4.4
19:06:09 <asir2> We need editors to own 4.3.4, 5.2, 4.1, 4.6, 4.8
19:07:03 <asir2> Action: asir to summarize the team ownership of sub sections in Section 4
19:07:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-226 - Summarize the team ownership of sub sections in Section 4 [on Asir Vedamuthu - due 2007-04-04].
19:07:18 <asir2> And ask for volunteers
19:07:57 <asir2> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:07:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html asir2
19:08:05 <fsasaki> present: Asir, Dorchard, Maryann, Frederick, Felix
19:08:23 <asir2> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:08:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html asir2
19:08:24 <fsasaki> rrsagent, please draft minutes
19:08:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html fsasaki
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