SWEO Interest Group Weekly Telco

 

susie: kjetil: updates on community projects?

Community projects

kjetilk: a new text on the mailinglist about community projects

susie: would it be good to organize a hacker community meeting to get things started?

kjetilk: face to face is good, but I am not sure if travelling and ... is good for this

susie: what about a conference and colocating it?

kjetilk: perhaps ISWC/ESWC

susie: There is the Semantic Technology conference

<PaulaP> one is Vienna, one in Innsbruck

<PaulaP> +1

Dunitschka: the semantic technology is in vienna

<scribe> ACTION: talk next week about possible conference on hacking [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action01]

Information gathering

<Susie> Leo discussing what RDF formats to use for InfoGathering.

<Susie> Leo has problem in that there isn't concensus on the best approach

kidehen: leo: my perspective is that when we locate resource that fall into different categories
... the important thing is to be able to identify items like atom/rss
... SIOC is being modified at the moment, it was motivated with dicsussion forums and blogs
... SIOC we want to make it more generic
... as long as it is a standard format, we will import it
... there is no conflicts between SIOC and data

leobard: so lets use the current proposal of RDFvocabs and say we are open for more

kidehen: I can put the data gathering software on a W3C server
... part of dbpedia project, we can make a SWEO part of it

ivan: first issue: checked the wiki, made some small additions
... one point is bibtex

leobard: if we stress this now, I would go to the stuff bibsonomy.org uses

ivan: I use bibsonomy.org, fine with me

leobard: I have contact with them, we can fix bugs (Robert)

ivan: second issue: kingsley was asking ... one thing is developing and installing it, second is maintaining it
... if its successfull, we have to be ready for a blast
... we may face an overload

ivan: we have to keep this running forever

kidehen: temporary solution: I have servers
... data is peanuts compared to what I already handle
... my server provides a rdf dump

leo: I see three steps, A is agree on a data format, B is gathering the source data, C is displaying it user friendly
... A seems to be done, B and C have to be coordinated now

kidehen: is there rdf sources out there?

<kidehen> yes

ivan: there are... dave becket, book list, bibsonomy, ...
... w3c has some talks metadata

leobard: if we as SWEO propose a format, people will love it
... we have to agree on A

we need to update http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary

and http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/ClassificationOntology

susie: I would like this is done next week,

<danja> +1 to Susie - anything that can be turned into concrete actions is good

susie: I would blog about the results

<scribe> ACTION: discuss on this wiki pages until next week: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/ClassificationOntology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: finish discussion on this wiki page unitl next week: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action03]

<Susie> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/

<danja> planetrdf++ !

<scribe> ACTION: leobard: contact Alistair from SKOS if he has a decent SKOS editor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action04]

<danja> leobard, I suggest breaking out another page on the wiki

danja: go for it

<danja> "Data sources" or similar, taking stuff from "Existing data and People involved" onwards

danja: its on InformationGathering, scroll down
... go to http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering

<danja> yeah, but all on same page - could be split into more manageable chunks

danja: yes, do that! (please, do it, collaborate :-)

<bengee> there is only one skos editor atm, and it has to be installed locally afaik

<danja> leobard, ok :-)

Survey results

susie: Karen, progress report?

<danja> yeah, but all on same page - could be split into more manageable chunks

Karen: Wing and I are going to work more tomorrow

susie: use cases are slowly dropping in

final report on use cases next week..

Use Cases

susie: we made a more user friendly version of the bt use case
... revised version of other use case just got back
... total of four use cases
... we have to format them before publishing

<scribe> ACTION: susie - how to format the use cases before publishing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action05]

ivan: ian gave us free hand,
... we need someone with marketing experience

<danja> for reference -

<danja> http://alistair.cockburn.us/index.php/Sampler_of_good_%26_bad_use_cases

<Karen> karen

<danja> (scroll down and it has guidelines)

karen: I will look into the format

<scribe> ACTION: susie - send Karen input for formatting use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action06]

<bengee> leobard, there is a skos editor called ThManager available at http://thmanager.sourceforge.net/

bengee: please link this page from the classificationontology

<bengee> 'k

<Karen> +1 Susie

Feedbacks on the SW-FAQ

susie: there was some feedback on FAQ

kjetilk: there has been .... but its quite good as it is

ivan: I took more input from ... and added it to the faq
... I would love more input comparing traditional search engines with semantic web

kidehen: I blogged about google base recently, its related

<scribe> ACTION: kidehen write an e-mail to ivan about this blog post about google base [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action07]

<danja> "Is the Semantic Web another search engine?"

susie: I asked danny ayers to review FAQ

Karen: there was confusion between search engines and semantic web

<danja> (make it an action item for me if you like)

Karen: use cases showing a combination/reuse are good

ivan: the postings about microformats are the approach that is good

susie: danja to review faq