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susie: kjetil: updates on community projects?
kjetilk: a new text on the mailinglist about community projects
susie: would it be good to organize a hacker community meeting to get things started?
kjetilk: face to face is good, but I am not sure if travelling and ... is good for this
susie: what about a conference and colocating it?
kjetilk: perhaps ISWC/ESWC
susie: There is the Semantic Technology conference
<PaulaP> one is Vienna, one in Innsbruck
<PaulaP> +1
Dunitschka: the semantic technology is in vienna
<scribe> ACTION: talk next week about possible conference on hacking [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action01]
<Susie> Leo discussing what RDF formats to use for InfoGathering.
<Susie> Leo has problem in that there isn't concensus on the best approach
kidehen: leo: my perspective is that when we
locate resource that fall into different categories
... the important thing is to be able to identify items like atom/rss
... SIOC is being modified at the moment, it was motivated with dicsussion
forums and blogs
... SIOC we want to make it more generic
... as long as it is a standard format, we will import it
... there is no conflicts between SIOC and data
leobard: so lets use the current proposal of RDFvocabs and say we are open for more
kidehen: I can put the data gathering software
on a W3C server
... part of dbpedia project, we can make a SWEO part of it
ivan: first issue: checked the wiki, made some
small additions
... one point is bibtex
leobard: if we stress this now, I would go to the stuff bibsonomy.org uses
ivan: I use bibsonomy.org, fine with me
leobard: I have contact with them, we can fix bugs (Robert)
ivan: second issue: kingsley was asking ... one
thing is developing and installing it, second is maintaining it
... if its successfull, we have to be ready for a blast
... we may face an overload
ivan: we have to keep this running forever
kidehen: temporary solution: I have servers
... data is peanuts compared to what I already handle
... my server provides a rdf dump
leo: I see three steps, A is agree on a data
format, B is gathering the source data, C is displaying it user friendly
... A seems to be done, B and C have to be coordinated now
kidehen: is there rdf sources out there?
<kidehen> yes
ivan: there are... dave becket, book list,
bibsonomy, ...
... w3c has some talks metadata
leobard: if we as SWEO propose a format, people
will love it
... we have to agree on A
we need to update http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary
and http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/ClassificationOntology
susie: I would like this is done next week,
<danja> +1 to Susie - anything that can be turned into concrete actions is good
susie: I would blog about the results
<scribe> ACTION: discuss on this wiki pages until next week: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/ClassificationOntology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: finish discussion on this wiki page unitl next week: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action03]
<Susie> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/
<danja> planetrdf++ !
<scribe> ACTION: leobard: contact Alistair from SKOS if he has a decent SKOS editor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action04]
<danja> leobard, I suggest breaking out another page on the wiki
danja: go for it
<danja> "Data sources" or similar, taking stuff from "Existing data and People involved" onwards
danja: its on InformationGathering, scroll
down
... go to http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering
<danja> yeah, but all on same page - could be split into more manageable chunks
danja: yes, do that! (please, do it, collaborate :-)
<bengee> there is only one skos editor atm, and it has to be installed locally afaik
<danja> leobard, ok :-)
susie: Karen, progress report?
<danja> yeah, but all on same page - could be split into more manageable chunks
Karen: Wing and I are going to work more tomorrow
susie: use cases are slowly dropping in
final report on use cases next week..
susie: we made a more user friendly version of
the bt use case
... revised version of other use case just got back
... total of four use cases
... we have to format them before publishing
<scribe> ACTION: susie - how to format the use cases before publishing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action05]
ivan: ian gave us free hand,
... we need someone with marketing experience
<danja> for reference -
<danja> http://alistair.cockburn.us/index.php/Sampler_of_good_%26_bad_use_cases
<Karen> karen
<danja> (scroll down and it has guidelines)
karen: I will look into the format
<scribe> ACTION: susie - send Karen input for formatting use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action06]
<bengee> leobard, there is a skos editor called ThManager available at http://thmanager.sourceforge.net/
bengee: please link this page from the classificationontology
<bengee> 'k
<Karen> +1 Susie
susie: there was some feedback on FAQ
kjetilk: there has been .... but its quite good as it is
ivan: I took more input from ... and added it
to the faq
... I would love more input comparing traditional search engines with
semantic web
kidehen: I blogged about google base recently, its related
<scribe> ACTION: kidehen write an e-mail to ivan about this blog post about google base [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/07-sweo-minutes.html#action07]
<danja> "Is the Semantic Web another search engine?"
susie: I asked danny ayers to review FAQ
Karen: there was confusion between search engines and semantic web
<danja> (make it an action item for me if you like)
Karen: use cases showing a combination/reuse are good
ivan: the postings about microformats are the approach that is good
susie: danja to review faq