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<raphael> vassilis, are you joining on the phone?
<raphael> Scribe: Zeljko
<raphael> Scribenixk: zeljko
<raphael> Scribenick: zeljko
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 15th February 2007 telecon:
http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html
RESOLUTION: Minutes accepted
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to maintain the Vocabularies page [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action01]
<raphael> ACTION: Zeljko to maintain the Resources/Tools page [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
<raphael> ACTION: Michael to prepare a stable TR Voc page for review by next telecon [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
<vassilis> zakim IPcaller is vassilis
<raphael> ACTION: Jeff and Raphael to give feedback on how to improve the Tools Page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action05]
Semantic Web document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report)
change the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz)
Oscar: interoperability, links to
music ontology. Work on mappings, updated Wiki with
metadata.
... Python Web service for mapping
... sorting out problem with proxies and servers to make
service available
Raphael: iTunes to RDF
converter?
... Talk with Ivan Herman about this use case. Problem of
current poor metadata, music ontology deals with more
information
<vassilis> thnx raphael
Raphael: Use case to illustrate richness of music ontology
<raphael> ACTION: Oscar to update the UC and the interop deliverable [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
<raphael> ACTION: Oscar to update a possible scenario with classical music (thanks to Ivan Herman) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07]
Chris: new telecon to discuss issues
Raphael: offline interaction
Chris: wiki page updated with additional information, then feednack from the group
<raphael> s/OScar/Chris
<raphael> ACTION: Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action08]
<raphael> Susanne: need to investigate DIG35, is it a XML Schema or in RDF?
<raphael> ... it is a XML Schema
<raphael> ... XMP is a good base, it is in RDF
Susanne: not sure if RDF is solution
<raphael> ACTION: Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action09]
Raphael: XMP, RDF but not controlled schema
<raphael> ACTION: Erik to start a discussion on Photo UC on public list [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action10]
Eric: do we be as small as possible or as broad as possible?
Raphael: generality good idea but to be as much concrete as possible for particular use case
<raphael> ACTION: Susanne to look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together could be the solution [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action11]
Eric: five different types of photo data
Raphael: who is behind this standards, who use them
Eric: consortium of 20 companies
Raphael: who produce such metadata?
<suzmax> http://www.i3a.org/i_dig35.html
Raphael: worth to make convertion to RDF if these standards are used
<vassilis> zakim. unmute me
Vassilis: what is the current format of this standard
Susanne: XML Schema
<raphael> ACTION: Erik to do the conversion from DIG35 to OWL/RDF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12]
Susanne: discussion about further steps in this use case
Raphael: integrations of various
vocabularies
... give examples of these problems in the use case
<suzmax> http://www.i3a.org/pdf/resource_order_form.pdf
<raphael> PB: DIG35 is not free!
Raphael: licencing problems of convertion
<raphael> ACTION: Erik to contact DIG35 to see any licensing problems if we do some conversions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13]
Thomas: nothing new to
report
... wiki page and description quite OK
... started software development project, but it will procede
slowely
Ovidio)
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC till [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action14]
next AC [PENDING}
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to contact Massimo to ask for next steps [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action15]
Vassilis: sending review tomorrow
Ioannis: collaborative outcame
<scribe> New name: semantic media analysis for information retrieval
Ioannis: multimodality case:
example about audio-visual combination about violence
... question - combination of usecases
... better to keep it as it is now
<raphael> ... algorithm and semantic multimedia retrieval are complementary
Ioannis: good to have a review
<raphael> ACTION: Susanne Little to review the Multimedia Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action16]
<raphael> ACTION: Vassilis to review the Multimedia Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action17]
<raphael> 4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case: [DONE]
<raphael> ACTION: Raphael to enable CVS account for Oscar [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action18]
<raphael> ACTION: Raphael to enable CVS account for Suzanne Little [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19]
<raphael> ACTION: To invite Chrisa as invited expert [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action20]
<scribe> ACTION: Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action21]
MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by next telecon [PENDING]
Raphael: comparison, and harmonization od descriptions
<raphael> ACTION: Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by next telecon [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action22]
Raphael: discussed in last
telecon, meeting with Ivan Herman today
... W3C has problems with task members
... increase number of working groups, stop to make working
groups
... working groups tend to think that best practices working
groups are not a good idea
... Ivane: another XG good idea
<raphael> ... IG is also a good idea
Raphael: another possibility: interested group, much lighter charter, do not have to produce documents
<raphael> ... but it can and the documents are endorsed by W3C
Vassilis: if we have the change to procede to a working group, it is better for getting industrial partners
<raphael> Vassilis: if we have a chance to proceed to a WG, it would be better to have industrial partners
<raphael> ... even though about the IPP issues
<raphael> ... since a WG has a much more impact
<raphael> ... and companies would be more interested
<raphael> ... they might think they loose their time in an XG
<raphael> ... and people would be more motivated
Raphael: do you have in mind some companies: Adobe, Microsoft, Joost, HP...
Susanne: should find to keep interest people in formal or informal way
<raphael> Erik: agrees with Vassilis, better for impact to be in a WG
Erik: the more impact we can have, the more we can ensure more staff
Raphael: XG will be closed in two months, worries about completing all the documents
<suzmax> bye Susanne and Massimo
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