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<raphael> Title: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 01-02-2007, 17:00 UTC
<raphael> Title: Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 01-02-2007, 17:00 UTC
<raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Jan/0049.html
<raphael> Scribenick: mhausenblas
<raphael> Scribe: Michael
<ganadiot> hello there
<raphael> Presents: Raphael, Chris, George Anadiotis, Zeljko Obrenovic, Michael Hausenblas
+regrets Melliyal Annamalai
<JeffP> Hi guys
hi there
+present Jeff Pan
+present Thomas Franz
<raphael> Michael, meli has sent regrets ?
<JeffP> yes
yes, see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Feb/0013.html
+present Tobias Buerger
+present Christian Halaschek-Wiener
+present Eric_Chris_Gaetan
+present Vassilis Tzouvaras
+present Suzanne Little
Roll call
<chalaschek> second
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 18 January 2007 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html
accepted
Next telecon: 15th February 2007
Raphael: Next Friday, 9 Feb the chairs report to the SW coordination group
+present Stamatia
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to update the vocabularies page by the next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
<isti> wiki site appears to be down?
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to prepare a stable TR Voc page for review by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to merge the Resources and Tools page See: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
Zeljko: Did some initial page on
the merged pages
... added tools and projects
... will be further restructured
... add DOAP
... explain functionality (manual, automatic, etc.)
<scribe> ACTION: Zeljko to maintain the Resources/Tools page [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
Jeff: relation to interop
deliverable
... Vassilis to sort out related projects
Vassilis: Will take care
<alessio> hi all
Raphael: link to the DOAP files, not embed it
+present alessio
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/deliverables/image_annotation.html
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
Raphael: Will be ready by next
week
... then we vote
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis and Jeff to start the Common Framework [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis responsible that each author of each use case to fill the summary of their interoperability problems [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
Vassilis: Please, everybody,
within the next two days, send updates
... interop levels differentiation
... going to include the figures from Athens F2F
... first draft _without_ solutions by next week
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/FrontPage
Vassilis: K-Space work could be integrated
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis update the structure of the deliverable and fill it in a XG report template, HTML document in our W3C space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
-- drop
Thomas: input of interop
deliverable
... Vassilis do you need more?
Vassilis: news, photo, music is missing
<JeffP> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Interoperability
Jeff: Current structure of deliverable
Raphael: New title?
Jeff: link provided, the main
contribution is the common framework
... hence title should be : "Media Annotation Interop
Framework"
<raphael> rather: Multimedia Annotation Interoperability Framework
Vassilis: lets focus now on the motivation, solution later
Raphael: Try to combine low-level
feature with domain semantics
... first prototype is available
... overall in good shape
<scribe> ACTION: Oscar to provide a first implementation of the Music use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Paola to provide a possible B2B scenario [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
Raphael: Currently ID3 to RDF converter
<scribe> ACTION: Oscar to update the UC and the interop deliverable till 7 Feb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action11]
Chris: We try to get some real
news feeds, archives
... currently in XML format, only
... freely available content
... found an earlier version that is online
... have to spot diffs
... NDA with DowJones content
... will be able to look at the abstract level
... will be able to look at the abstract level
Raphael: A bit behind schedule,
but Chris pushes this work
... will have a internal call to further push this
work
<scribe> ACTION: Chris and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable till 7 Feb [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12]
Raphael: Susanne is not here
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to bug Susanne about status [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13]
Eric: Wanted to started
discussion
... but found out that it is related to authoring rather
--> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Jan/0048.html
Raphael: Do you utilise semantics?
Eric: No; just MPEG-21 based features
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to start a discussion on Photo UC on public list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action11]
-- drop
<scribe> ACTION: Susanne to look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together could be the solution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
Eric: better fit with:
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantics_from_Multimedia_Authoring
Raphael: Could you look at the other, "real" UC to see where it fits in?
Eric: Yes
Thomas: I restructured the
motivation in UC
... additionally setting up prototype
... 12 Feb will be decided if a students project will elaborate
on this deeper
George: Affiliation has changed
(Free Uni A'dam)
... will stick with XG, ask for help in tech realisation
Raphael: CWI will continue on this UC
<scribe> ACTION: Thomas to report analysis of tagging platform in Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
Raphael: Ontology issues to sort
out ...
... to wait for SWD to sort out SKOS-related semantics
Michael: on SKOS -SWD issue
Jeff: Should we focus on SKOS?
Michael: Could do liasion with SWD, if you want me to
Raphael: Send mail to SWD - no
answer, yet
... current version is quite stable
... just some small problems with semantics
... not the question of replacing
Jeff: I agree
--> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables
Suzanne: In a stable state
... motivation is done
... extended solution
<scribe> ACTION: Suzanne, Massimo to further exemplify and sketch the solution: what will be needed to model in the ontology, and how it would be used [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03] [DONE]
Raphael: Regarding solution
... K-space ontology any use for you?
Suzanne: Let you know, seems reasonable
<raphael> ...particularly the algorithm pattern !
Suzanne: do you want us to reference paper?
Raphael: Paper is technical
report now
... can provide you UML of model
... could be integrated in UC
<scribe> ACTION: Sophia to find and send a documentation about an application toolbox where the user can select some algorithm to do feature extraction on music [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]
<raphael> http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~aggrimm/arbeitsberichte/arbeitsberichte_4_2007.pdf
Raphael: Next steps?
Suzanne: Comments are welcome!
Raphael: Call for review
<scribe> ACTION: Jeff and Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC till next AC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19]
Suzanne: Where to put parts?
Vassilis: Into common framework
Raphael: News, Tagging UC and common framework
no participant present - next AC
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to make testing how to transfer the wiki page into an XG report template [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael Stamatia to start work on MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Vassilis to contact Chrisa to find out how she can contribute w.r.t. MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action22]
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