W3C

SWD WG

30 Jan 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2007-01-16

Attendees

Present
Tom Baker, Ralph Swick, Bernard Horan, Antoine Isaac, Diego Berrueta, Jon Phipp, Ben Adida, Elisa Kendall
Regrets
Alistair, Guus, Sean, Daniel
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ralph

Contents


 Boston F2F: day 1, day 2

<Ralph> [I just updated the lists of attendees on the f2f minutes]

RDFa

Tom: the agenda records 6 RDFa actions, 5 of which were discussed in yesterday's RDFa TF telecon
... should we consider those to be tracked in the TF telecon and not track them here also?

Ben: I don't mind either way, can handle duplication if full WG wants to keep track of progress

Tom: I'd prefer to report followup to the mailing list and point to the report of the TF telecon in the Tuesday agenda
... asking the scribe to copy the RDFa actions forward seems like extra work
... but it's fine to copy all the mail to the mailing list
... during the WG telecon, just ask Ben to summarize the status
... Ben can put issues on the agenda if he wishes
... e.g. if the TF wants to talk about a particular action or issue

RESOLUTION: RDFa actions do not need to be brought up in WG telecon by default

ACTION: Guus to flag the issue of RDFa REC track on the coordination group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

Ben: I've done some editing on the Use Cases based on f2f discussion
... Primer updates still pending
... would appreciate further feedback from WG this week

Admin

RESOLUTION: 16-swd-minutes accepted as record of 16 January telecon

RESOLUTION: 22-swd-minutes accepted as record of 22 January f2f

RESOLUTION: 23-swd-minutes accepted as record of 23 January f2f

ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

ACTION: [DONE] guus/tomb to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: [DONE] Daniel will review RDFa. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action08] - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0071.html

ACTION: [DONE] RalphS inform group on evening event. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action02] DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0037.html

ACTION: [DONE] Antoine to post note to list describing how members of WG should prepare for the F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-swd-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION: [DONE] Daniel to state problem with suggestion of where to look in preparing for this discussion of collecting metadata requirements. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-swd-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: [DONE] Everyone should be registered for the F2F by 10 Jan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action02]

SKOS

Tom: What is the relation between wiki/SkosIssues and wiki/SkosIssuesSandbox (both are called "SKOS Issues")?

Antoine: there were "issues" listed that were not really raised by anyone in particular
... Alistair is officially still the editor of SkosIssues
... and Jon has started the wiki issues list

Jon: I'm interested in using the issue tracker that the RDFa TF has started to use

<benadida> alright, signing off for now... apologies for the last minute conflict

Jon: Antoine, Daniel, and I should discuss this first

Antoine: the UCR editors don't really "own" the issues list

Jon: my understanding was that Alistair was creating a draft issues list, then Antoine picked up that task
... I'm happy for Alistair to continue

-> issues tracker

Ralph: the RDFa TF has started to use 'tracker' for its issues
... I think Guus expressed the opinion to wait and see how that worked out before moving other deliverables into this

Jon: I'm happy to go either way for the cookbook issues

Tom: making the switch does require extra work
... I've added more links to the wiki deliverables page

-> SWD Deliverables

Tom: I'd like each editor to check before the telecons that the links are current

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alan write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01]

Bernard: the name of the item may not be clear to everyone, but the SKOS folk understand

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Antoine to provide more use cases of uses of qualifiers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action02]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Guus to check that this issue of more specialization than broad/narrow is on the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Antoine to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Antoine to contact the submittors of #7 to see what they want to use skos for (as opposed to, say, owl) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action05]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alistair to summarizes the aspects of semantics of the skos data model [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action06]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Guus to check with veronique on the terms being outside the iso standard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action07]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alistair to rephrase the old issue of skos/owl-dl coexistence and semantics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alistair to update the schedule for SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action10]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Alistair to raise a new issue about USE X + Y and USE X OR Y [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action07]

Recipes

-> Recipes deliverables

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Jon to update issue list as per resolution of issue 1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action10]

RESOLUTION: Jon may move the Recipes issues list to tracker at his discretion

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Jon to update issue list as per dropping of 1.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Bernard to raise new issue re IE6 hack [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action12]

ACTION: [DONE] Diego to look at IE7 accept headers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action13]

-> IE7 accept headers [Diego 2007-01-29]

Diego: IE7 sends the same Accept headers as the previous version
... so the Recipes document needs to continue to give the IE hack

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph propose resolution to issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]

Vocabulary Management

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Guus to contact persons working on versioning in Knowledge Web [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action05]

ACTION: [CONTINUES] Elisa to give first overview of what the status of the doc is and add comments and coordinate work on doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06]

Elisa: I've started this, may be able to put this on the agenda for next week

Jon: the NSDL Metadata Registry will be implementing change management and version control next month
... there will likely be use cases coming from that

Semantic Integration

ACTION: [DONE] Elisa liaise with Mike Uschold re: Semantic Integration note - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0060.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-swd-minutes.html#action27]

Elisa: I did write to Mike Uschold and Chris Menzel
... Mike has been doing some work on the editor's draft
... Mike's response on joining SWD was that he didn't have budget or time
... Chris is interested, however. He's back at U. Texas, so would need to be an Invited Expert

ACTION: Tom and Ralph talk with Guus about the Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-swd-minutes.html#action28]

Elisa: I told Chris that if he were to take this task on, I would help him with it

Ralph: this Note was included in SWD deliverables primarily because Mike wanted it there
... but I'm encouraged by Elisa's interest

Elisa: I think Mike would like to see progress on the Note, just that he doesn't have time himself

next telecon: Tuesday 6 Feb

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Tom and Ralph talk with Guus about the Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-swd-minutes.html#action28]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal values, and how to represent that in skos [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alan write up the preferredLabel modelling issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to raise a new issue about USE X + Y and USE X OR Y [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to rephrase the old issue of skos/owl-dl coexistence and semantics [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to summarizes the aspects of semantics of the skos data model [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to update the schedule for SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to capture the issue on capturing relationships between labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to contact the submittors of #7 to see what they want to use skos for (as opposed to, say, owl) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to provide more use cases of uses of qualifiers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Bernard to raise new issue re IE6 hack [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to give first overview of what the status of the doc is and add comments and coordinate work on doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to check that this issue of more specialization than broad/narrow is on the issues list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to check with veronique on the terms being outside the iso standard [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to contact persons working on versioning in Knowledge Web [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus to flag the issue of RDFa REC track on the coordination group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jon to update issue list as per dropping of 1.2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jon to update issue list as per resolution of issue 1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine to post note to list describing how members of WG should prepare for the F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Daniel to state problem with suggestion of where to look in preparing for this discussion of collecting metadata requirements. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/16-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Daniel will review RDFa. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action08] - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0071.html
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to look at IE7 accept headers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action13]
[DONE] ACTION: Elisa liaise with Mike Uschold re: Semantic Integration note - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0060.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-swd-minutes.html#action27]
[DONE] ACTION: Everyone should be registered for the F2F by 10 Jan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: guus/tomb to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: RalphS inform group on evening event. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action02] DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0037.html
 
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