W3C

i18n core WG

30 Jan 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Felix, Ienup, Michael, Richard
Regrets
Francois
Chair
Felix
Scribe
Felix

Contents


last minutes

http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-i18ncore-minutes.html

minutes approved

Action items

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding WG (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0031.html

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML comments (DONE) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on c14n 1.1. (DROPPED) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065 (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode (ONGOING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]

Ienup: yesterday I sent a mail saying that I'm talking to Mark
... Mark said they have a URL we can use, so I'd recommend the URL and close the AI

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html

Felix: Agree with closing the AI but keeping track of the URI described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html , we might need it for an update of C064 / C065

<scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather information onoptions for diacrictics in collations (PENDING) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply to him (PENDING [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]

the mail was about the proposed edited recommendation request of xml:base,

see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html )

Charmod C064 considered unclear

<scribe> postponed until next week

xml:base

Felix: I'll ping Francois later to see if he can follow up on this before 31 January

PLS 1.0 review

Richard: I'll look at it after the meeting

IDN "does it work?" document

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0027.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0027/idn.html__charset_UTF-8

<Mick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0032.html

Michael: I made an update since that

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0032/idnv2.html__charset_UTF-8

Richard: looks good, did not have a chance to look at it yet in detail

Michael: Mark said IE looks a little bit more elegant than other solutions
... should we give time to review this?

Richard: this is an replacement for a section in an existing article, right?

Michael: yes

Richard: I'll also send this to the GEO WG

<scribe> ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to GEO [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]

Ienup: I can also send the document to various people

Richard: the document is quite long and a bit complex
... the GEO documents are sent out for review on the www-international list
... might also be good to do this here

Ienup: good idea

Michael: I'll make some formatting changes and condense the document, before distributing it
... the explanation of how some browsers act is covered in some "mouse over" information which is bad since you can't print that
... I'll reformat that before I'll distribute
... after that I'll send it to www-international?

Richard: contact me as you are ready. We might want to integrate it into the original article, after that we send it to www-international

Michael: ok, I'll contact you first

CSS 2.1 review

Richard: I'll send the mail about the BDO stuff, I'll try to do that this week
... if you get a chance to read it, it's fine. CSS 2.1 is far advanced

Felix: ok, let's do it like that

LC reviews

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0020.html

http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/

Felix: any volunteers?

Richard: character encoding support is important in the draft for us

http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE

Richard: can't see a lot other issues

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]

LTLI update

<scribe> postponed

XQuery full text review - udpate?

<scribe> postponed

activity renewal

Richard: form for renewal is out until 7th February
... positive responses so far, one suggestion about MathML, except that not much to report
... after activity renewal, everybody has to rejoin the WGs, so you'll have to talk to your AC reps for that
... we also have to make a recruitment plan for i18n , if you have any ideas, please let us know

Michael: how many people are necessary?

Richard: the more the better. Some people don't attend meetings, but contribute in other ways

trip report from Richard

Richard: went to conference organized by Pan localization project
... they are working with people developing standards for keyboards etc
... they train a smaller group of people in each country to become i18n / l10n engineers
... last week they had a meeting in Bhutan
... brought people from 16 countries together
... they will do a survey starting from the conference

<r12a> http://www.panl10n.net/english/Survey.htm

Richard: above is a previous survey they did
... also in the workshop they put together some policy statements
... there was also a presentation by Ram Noham (scribe not sure about spelling)
... specialist in IDNs
... I represented W3C and explained what we do

<r12a> http://www.panl10n.net/english/Program20.htm

Michael: how long has the pan localization been around?

Richard: I think 3 years
... they recently launched Linux for Tibetanian and other languages
... the link above leads to the HP which has more info

<r12a> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/

Felix: any potential members?

Richard: not sure, the people might not join themselves, but spread the news in their country
... went back via India, people are still very interested in i18n
... they are interested in CSS support for lists using Indian numbers

Felix: would be great to have a requirements document (or several) for India or other Asian countries about their layout requirements

Richard: maybe a bit early (they are still in an early stage of discussion), maybe we can look into this later this year

AOB

meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to GEO [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod norm [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather information onoptions for diacrictics in collations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply to him [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
 
[DROPPED] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on c14n 1.1. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
 
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