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<trackbot> Date: 30 January 2007
<scribe> scribe: pauld
minutes from 16/1 and 19/12 approved
dinner arrangements
gcowe: been working on some patterns and examples, trying to CVS sorted
<Yves> see http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-rec-issues.html generated from .xml
LC issue tracking
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/lc-issues/
yves: used several tools including Bugzilla for LC, but simple files often work best
<scribe> ACTION: ylafon to obtain a copy of the ws-desc LC stylesheet [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Obtain a copy of the ws-desc LC stylesheet [on Yves Lafon - due 2007-02-06].
pauld: a lot of our LC comments are editorial, what's the process, do we need the WG to get involved?
yves: one line in the minutes is sufficient
pauld: our strong process will
help deal with comments
... there is a meta-question in Microsoft's comments, things
may not get better!
gcowe: Origo needs things to get better
yves: customer demand is unlikely to allow a vendor to lower the bar
pauld: i understand the thinking may be coloured by wanting to map to and from JSON
jonc: we restrict name clashes, so distinction between mapping to JSON and Java is mute
pauld: customer demand is key here IMO
jonc: are they thinking code first, or mapping WSDL to code?
pauld: Indigo is "contract"
first, but the contract is fairly code centric
... ignoring our buckets, at least Microsoft and Origo can go
away and write their own Basic specs and have a conversaion as
a result of our work
... chased the Schema WG, and had positive response, but a
worry we've done too much work for them to review
... we need to help them
jonc: have they any meetings planned?
yves: not sure, only one person is reviewing, AIUI
pauld: worried they're being too
fastidious, but our detection and test suite will help their
review
... we do need to do some work to help their review
... it's down to me to rack up the LC comments so we can
process them
jonc: looking at Microsoft's comments, chimes in with one of our issues
<scribe> ACTION: jcalladi to investigate Microsoft LC item 7 and maxOccurs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-databinding-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Investigate Microsoft LC item 7 and maxOccurs [on Jonathan Calladine - due 2007-02-06].
pauld: what do we need to do to skip CR
yves: documentation in out testsuite / implementation report should be sufficient
pauld: do we need to say how many implementations we need - 2, 4, 13?
yves: our judgement call
pauld: so our test suite is our exit criteria
yves: enlisted some assistance to
put up the validation service
... also been looking at generating the test results
pauld: happy for you to respecify
the format to suite your purposes
... struggled through a powercut testing Axis 1.x and Axis2 and
Xfire
... barfdance.sh is clumsy with a WAR files
... should be ok for the BEA tools as well
gcowe: need to get a new websphere tool version
<scribe> ACTION: pauld to enlist help from IBM contacts in Hursley [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-databinding-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - pauld
<scribe> ACTION: pdowney to enlist help from IBM contacts in Hursley [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-databinding-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Enlist help from IBM contacts in Hursley [on Paul Downey - due 2007-02-06].
pauld: green and red is going to help motivate us and others to contribute
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