SW Education and Outrach IG Telco

 

 

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Susie: Alistair, could you present yourself?

Alistair: Is looking into Knowledge Management, Semantic Web Services, Integration
... looking into a variaty of applications

Susie: we have a few action items

Action items

Susie: we should have links to conferences
... resend the developers questions
... I have had the action item to complete the enterprise questionnaire
... end of the survey 19th
... we have completed the action items
... leobard isn't here

Web Developers' survey (kjetilk)

Susie: kjetilk is formally leading the developers questions

<LeeF> kjetilk: Benjamin posted comments on developer questions ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2007Jan/0041.html )

<Susie> Issues we should be discussing

<Susie> Should be clear as to how SWEO will be involved in the project

<Susie> Should be clear as to what sort of project we should promote

<Susie> Should there be winners or not?

<Susie> How do we determine who is involved in a project

<Susie> Draft of questions are at: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Web_Developer_Outreach

<Susie> How do we select the projects?

<Susie> Ivan says there should be a winner

<Susie> Lee agrees

<Susie> People are competitive, so a competition will motivate people

<Susie> How is the competition judged?

<Susie> Ivan think we should select a group of people

<Susie> Kjetilk thinks the winner is the person who gets the most developers involved in the project

<Susie> ivan proposes public judging of the projects

<Susie> Susie thinks that having your project selected is winning enough to start with

<Susie> The winning project is the one that leads to the best outreach of the Semantic Web

Susie: it is the SWEO group that will decide

ivan: we might not be nicer to kjetilk than to anybody else

Susie: we could involve others, that would be good, perhaps timbl

:-)

<Susie> Kingsley wants to create chatter around the Semantic Web

kidehen: some kind of platform is required to create chatter around the semweb

Susie: initially, the very knowledgeable people should be focusing on development

kidehen: I asked "how does semweb address integration problems?"
... and people are starting to respond to that

Susie: I would like to have a clear message

ivan: the contest should be done as quickly as possible

bengee: on some wiki, some suggested a different wording "a" semweb rather than "the"

<bengee> it was on the "WildIdeas" wiki page

<scribe> ACTION: Susie to put the finished questionnaire on the Semantic Web activity page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/17-sweo-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: kjetilk to finish the questionnaire ASAP [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/17-sweo-minutes.html#action02]

Use cases

Zakim: who is speaking

<Susie> Use case attributes http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Use_Cases

Zakim: who is speaking?

<bengee> it's the DAWG ;)

<Susie> Alistair Duke is speaking

ivan: we had a visitor yesterday at MIT, and they want to see well defined uses of semweb
... this is important for the semweb, because there are use cases that may not be distributed to the whole world, but real world deployments may be valuable to others exploring semweb

Susie: there is a lot of uptake in the enterprise community
... perhaps there should be a mailing list for discussing the uptake

<kidehen> Ivan: we need to collates Use-cases (how will the Semantic Web help address problems X,Y,X) and Case Studies (where Semweb has or is being used successfully)

ivan: I think what we really need is to have those use cases written down as detailed as possible

<kidehen> using Wiki, del.icio.us and other data dumping areas we already use

Susie: Oracle has written up a use-case as we use it on our website

kidehen: use cases, in my mind, is how the semweb is addressing a problem
... case studies are details about deployed studies

ivan: indeed, what I talked about is case studies, and they are what we need

<kidehen> Susie: URL for SPARQL access point

Susie: I want to move along, we have things to discuss
... a use case should be 4-6 pages and be nice and shiny
... it should be solid facts, though

<kidehen> All: We could device a Microformat for Use Cases and Case Studies which then extends a link to the Microformats community

<kidehen> link in the sense of outreach etc..

ivan: I think 4-5 pages is too much
... not more than 2 pages

Alistair: I think I could present the case study by next week

<ivan> ACTION: List of conferences [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/17-sweo-minutes.html#action03]

<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences

Susie: one interesting conference is a GRID conference
... the GRID community is interested in RDF
... anyone have something to submit
... second conference is XTech, deadline has passed
... iand and Paul Miller has items in

<scribe> ACTION: ivan to look at the Next Web Conf [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/17-sweo-minutes.html#action04]

Susie: I think the O'Reilly OSCON is good

ivan: this list is becoming useful for the community at large
... we might make it available in some form

Boston SW event

Susie: I sent an email to everyone in Boston

kidehen, ivan and kjetilk is going

<LeeF> lee and wing, also

<LeeF> and susie

most of us, then! :-)

ivan: f2f is pending
... lets put it on the agenda for next week

cool

<LeeF> see a bunch of you on Monday