WS Policy (editor's) -- 10 Jan 2007

<prasad> Chairs In Rotation: Asir, Dave, Prasad, Toufic, Umit, Frederick, Maryann

<FrederickHirsch> ScribeNick: Frederick

<FrederickHirsch> scribe: Frederick

<FrederickHirsch> Maryann to report to working group at F2F

<maryann> chairs rotation: asir (F2F), prasad, toufic, dave, umit, frederick, maryann

<FrederickHirsch> scribe: FrederickHirsch

Maryann scribe next week at F2F

<prasad> Last Editors call Minutes: http://www.w3.org/2006/12/13-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html

Minutes accepted

Proposal re 4041

<maryann> sent a revised version to the editor list incorporating comments from prasad and maryann

<toufic> this is for 4041?

<maryann> fred: propose that we send that to the working group

<umit2> asir: For 4041, we did not establish a timeline.

<maryann> asir is concerned about the timeline

<umit2> ... it would help me internally

<umit2> Maryann: Frederick, is it ok to wait for Asir?

updated proposal is already out

<umit2> Asir: Frederick if you can send the edits today, I can turn it around on Friday

<umit2> Frederick: It is too late, I sent a revised one today

<umit2> ... if we wait until Monday, people will not have enough time to read it

<umit2> Maryann: Could you start reading it now? It is not very long

<toufic> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Jan/

<umit2> Frederick: It is just two pages

<toufic> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Jan/0043.html

<maryann> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Jan/0043.html

<prasad> The above does not have an attachment it seems

<toufic> is this the one?: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Jan/0040.html

<umit2> Felix: The idea is to give the wg more time to look and comment on it.

<maryann> felix: we can send a proposal to the working group and indicate that its a work in progress

<umit2> Frederick: If there are some issues they can be addressed later.

<umit2> Asir: Are others ok for this go out?

<umit2> Dave, Toufik: yes.

<umit2> Maryann: You have an opportunity to comment on it.

<toufic> +1

<umit2> Asir: I have no issue to send my comments to the wg.

<umit2> Maryann: Can Frederick send it to the wg with a note that it is a draft and there may be more comments coming.

Frederick to indicate 1st draft of proposal being

<maryann> asir : next time we do this kind of proposal ( as opposed to an action) we need to be more vigilant

need to clarify that proposals by editors will require more time

<umit2> Asir: We need a more precise timeline/process

<umit2> Frederick: We need to tell the wg that proposals like this we need consensus. We need to tell them we need more time for such proposals.

editors may reject action items for producing ill-defined proposals

<umit2> Maryann: We need to review the action items and be more diligent about the material in the proposal.

<umit2> Umit: If the action item is not acceptable, we should reject it.

Editors have to manage timeline.

Open Action Items

<umit2> ACTION: Frederick to send the revised 4041 proposals with a note to the wg indicating this does not have full consensus, more comments may be sent about the proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/10-ws-policy-eds-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-114 - Send the revised 4041 proposals with a note to the wg indicating this does not have full consensus, more comments may be sent about the proposal [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2007-01-17].

Topic; Action 87, cookbook

Action 87

Last week discussed doing this at F2F during session as demo

stays open

TOPIC; Action 100

XML base reference tickler, keep open

Action 101

Prepare proposal, close.

Frederick is scribing

we decide that at the beginning to go into rotation. is taht ok?

Action 111

Related issues, give to Dave 0 along with 112

DaveO needs clarity on task

Asir explains action. Attachment document 3.4.1 paragraph below describes URIs

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-attachment.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#uri-domain-expression

Look at "URI domain expressions are used to identify resources that are identified..."

An IRI reference to WSDL 1.1 component is defined in [TBD]

add non-normative reference to David's Note, referenced by TBD

discussion of whether normative or non-normative reference

Add sentence, add BIBL entry, need stable URI

<asir> it is a non-normatived ref

Due date for 112 is 1/20.

David suggests later due date for 111, due to need to determine URI

Since not published, don't have document in TR area.

Asir - Suggest add sentence, create reference but leave URI as TBD. Then can implement 112 and put in the URIs

Decision - leave 112 as reminder to update stable URI, complete 111 before

actiion 113

<scribe> New item, duplicate of 111

New Action Items assigned to editors

none noted

F2F Agenda

David cannot attend editor session after 3pm

Proposal to meet at lunch time.

Thursday may not be good for Toufic

Keep at 3-5 as originally scheduled, same room as provided.

<maryann> we need to use the q

Open editorial action items during the meeting, as it happens

Take action items during meeting.

End of day meeting to wrap up.

General support for editing on fly, will help

Umit suggests new topic.

<prasad> People not going to be at the editors meeting should take ownership of open issues and let the editors know (send a note to the list)

<prasad> So far, only Dave cannot make and Toufic doubtful

<asir> RRSAgend, please draft minutes

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