<LeeF> Susie: BT has volunteered to write a use case around SW usage in telecom (Alister Duke)

<LeeF> Susie: questionnaire is open and being filled in

<LeeF> ... Leo has taken charge of InfoGathering task

<LeeF> leobard: May 1 deadline is in order to encourage us to focus on the core of the task

<bengee> how fast is zakim? p25 appeared 2 secs after I joined

<LeeF> ... goals are to gather information the right way (rather than as much as possible)

<bengee> thx, ivan

<ivan> ScribeNick: kidehen

<ivan> URI for the questionnaire results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39572/sweo_questionnaire/results

Susie: Questionnaire response appears to be high

<leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences#

Leo: Provides an overview of conferences of potential interest

Leo: highlights lack of XTech attendance indication from SWEO

<kjetilk> XTech is very well recognized here

Susie: I will look into potential attendees from Oracle.
... I submitted a Tutorial re. Real World Applications of the Semantic Web
... URL please

<LeeF> +1 o Susie

<LeeF> +1 to beer

Leo & Susie: Suggest SemWeb mixers

Susie: TimBL wants to improve collaboration and personal networking of MA based SemWeb players.

<kjetilk> would be fun to have an event during the MGM week

Susie: Current plan is for January, but TimBL needs to confirm
... suggests that initial mixer is SWEO member only, while subsequent meetings would be on an invitation basis (where invites are issued by SWEO members a 'la Google Mail invites)

<LeeF> I don't think the suggestion was *SWEO member * only as much as "by invitation" only

Susie: Encourages others to organize networking events so that networking spreads geographically

<leobard> link: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences

Susie: Indicate needs for lead time cognizance.

kidehen: Maybe we should add lead time data re. submissions to Wiki page

Ivan: Indicates XTech characterization is inaccurate. He indicates (from attendance observation) that this is the European equivalent of the Web 2.0 conferences in the U.S.
... Indicates SWEO presence is important

kidehen: Concurs

Ivan: Talks about existence of GRDDL Tutorials as relevant SWEO collateral
... Notes that WWW2007 has W3C tracks with a SW session

<leobard> hey, how about if you just edit the wiki page?

Jeff: unveils two conferences of relevance

<Zakim> kjetilk, you wanted to say that Edd Dumbill is chair

Kejit: Makes point about chairman of XTech is Edd Dumbill,

Kejit: Talks about Semantic Web competition as enticer for developers etc..

kjetilk:

<kjetilk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2006Dec/0169.html

kjetilk: Emphasizes importance of communicating magnitude and impact of SemWeb
... Suggest no wheel reinvention :-)
... suggest continuation and enhancement of things that exist

kidehen: I would like to suggest we produce SemWeb Mashups (aka Meshups) for instance

<ivan> +1 kjetilk

<kjetilk> thanks :-)

kjetilk and Susie: Emphasize cohesiveness of demos

Susie: Suggest use of demos to convince Microformats community for instance

<LeeF> There's no convincing the uf community.

kidehen: Should we not treat the demos as resources (part of Resource Gathering collective in Wiki)?
... Everyone should simply dump their demos links into the Wiki

Susie: Asks if questionnaires would work for Web Dev. community?

kjetilk: Emphasizes this group is already SemWeb curious if not totally interested
... Emphasizes we need to do more "Showing" and less "Telling"

Ivan: Acknowledges and agrees with kjetilk re. use of electronic channels
... Where these channels are inherently informal
... Ask kjetilk to re-send his mail

kidehen: Assuming this isn't already in the Mailing List archives

<kjetilk> kidehen: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2006Dec/0169.html

Karen: Talks about MIT hack-a-thon by Media Labs. She will get info re. organization of this event. Also talked about "Mobile Web" events centered around MIT etc..

Susie: Talks about Leo's suggestions re. organizing SemWeb networking events.

<Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Conferences/Meeting_Framework

<ivan> the conference dates are 23-25 April, Norway

Susie: Location and Data of next F2F in Europe. Timeframe will be close to W3C event in Europe. Emphasizes geographical re. F2F

<kjetilk> +1 for a meeting in Norway

Geographical rotation re. F2F

<leobard> ESWC 2007

<ivan> june is the ESW conference in Innsbruck

<leobard> 3-7th, June 2007

<leobard> what was the other?

<leobard> meeting of Oil Companies in May in Norway

<ivan> Leo: it is a semantic web days in Norway, but the web site is not yet up

<ivan> with a strong connection to oil and energy companies

<leobard> btw: I-Semantic in Graz... that misses

<leobard> I-Semantics: 5-7 September 2007, Graz, Austria

<bengee> semtech is may 20-24

<leobard> cfp: http://www.aposdle.tugraz.at/content/download/328/1657/file/I-KNOW%2007_CallForPapers.pdf

<ivan> www2007 is early May (7-12)

<ivan> the meeting in April could be 20-21 or 19-20

<ivan> yes

<ivan> I will look

<leobard> thx!!

<leobard> even better doing them :-)

<ivan> :-)

Happy New Year!!