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<scribe> Scribe: raphael
<rellero__> Hi, i'm sorry can connect only in irc today
<patriziaasirelli> Hi all, from Patrizia, Massimo & Suzanne
<IoannisPratikakis> hello from Athens
<SusanneBoll> Susanne Boll
<patriziaasirelli> I am having problem with my telephone I shall riconnect in a minute
<chalaschek> none here
<thomas> accept it
Minutes of the 02 October 2006 telecon: ACCEPTED
including the decisions taken
<chalaschek> none here
Next telecon 26 October 2006: ACCEPTED
<anadiotis> zakim mute me
<mhausenblas> one remark wrt http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison - looks orphaned
<SusanneBoll> Thanks, I read it and will contribute to is the next weeks
Vcaularies page maintained: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies
<vassilis> Patriccia: where to put the comments?
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to maintain the Vocabularies Page: CONTINUED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Pasquale to maintain the Resources Page: CONTINUED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action02]
<mhausenblas> yeah: let us go for a DOAP
<scribe> ACTION: Giovanni to maintain the Tool page: CONTINUED [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action03]
using DOAP file ?
<chalaschek> yep thats done
<Melli> I will do this very soon as well
<scribe> ACTION: Thierry, Paul, Melli to do their wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Ovidio, Stamatia to review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action05]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html before
mid October teleconf
<scribe> DONE
<scribe> ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action06]
Similarities between use cases according Patrizia
Patrizia: do not real address multimedia problems
<mhausenblas> chairs: I plan to propose a new UC today: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications
<mhausenblas> this one also addresses some of Patrizias issues
<JeffP> Patrizia: multimedia means there are multiple media ...
<JeffP> but not just one kind of media
<rellero__> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixA.html#multimediadef
<JeffP> [Anyone who want to join the discussion can simply tyle "q+" to join the queue]
Giovanni is not here ...
<scribe> ACTION: Giovanni, send an update status to the list of this use case as soon as possible [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action07]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/biomedical/medicalusecase.html
<IoannisPratikakis> it looks a sound example
<chalaschek> is this metadata represented using RDF or OWL? Or is this using another format?
<iavr> :-)
<IoannisPratikakis> please, at least scribe a summary of the conversations, otherwise IRC-only participants cannot follow
People now agree to use a subset of SNOMED for annotating bio medical use cases
if this is the case, problems partially solved
question: why using SW technologies ? and not purely XML solutions
Ex: people annotate pictures with "mandibules" or the snomed ID, or the super concept JAW, etc ...
might motivate the need for SW technologies
Interoperability problems inside MPEG-7
different ways to say the same thing
ontologizing MPEG-7 will not be enough
Solution1: create syntactic and semantic mappings (using OWL and SWRL)
Solution2: K-Space approach (linking domain ontology and core ontology)
Solution3: using profiles
Michael: distinction between syntactic and semantic problems
<vassilis> raphael: a representative from IPTC from next telecon
<scribe> ACTION: raphael to add the NewsML entry on the vocabularies wiki page by next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action08]
<vassilis> raphael: not yet for review. from next teleon
Ioannis any update ?
<IoannisPratikakis> there is an update wrt to the LLF UC
postpone next telecon
<IoannisPratikakis> please, consult it and give feedback
similar to some extent to NewsML use case
George: focus now on
interoperability issue, drop the others
... work on existing tagging ontology
no real update
postpone to next telecon
<mhausenblas> I would like to propose a new UC: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications
Nexf F2F meeting
Please, fill the questionnaire at: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39139/MMSEM-FTF02/
<scribe> New use case proposed by Michael, everybody to comment
<IoannisPratikakis> +q
<scribe> Meeting: W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 12-10-2006, 16:00 UTC
<scribe> Scribe: Raphael
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