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Comment LC-1196

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Commenter: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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Comment:

Sub-case 1 is by definition not applicable. If the action is reversable, then the user action does not cause i.e. commit to the transaction.

Sub-case 2 is insufficient. Having the system check for a subset of the system's concerns is in no way an indication of the user's informed consent to commit the transaction.

Sub-case 3 is the requirement.

Proposed Change:

Eliminate OR and leave the "opportunity to review" provision only.

Make a note that if the transaction is reversible then the review is required before the subsequent commit transaction, but that this test is not required at the interim step.

Related issues: 1170
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WG Notes: [TEAMC] [] Al has a good point - once a transaction is committed it should no longer be reversible. Note 2 is already covered by 2.5.2. Issue 1170 has a proposal for a rewording of the 3rd bullet. Could modify bullet 2 to be, "Success criterion 2.5.2 has been met for each step in the process." I discussed this with Alex Li and he is concerned about the removal of the second bullet so I have modified the proposal. Discussed in the 17 August 2006 telecon: resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from the Editorz: LC-847, LC-849, LC-850, LC-1006, LC-987, LC-936, LC-890, LC-852 resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from Team C: LC-1047, LC-1082, LC-1089, LC-1116, LC-1117, LC-1196, LC-1326 resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from Team B: LC-1127 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/08/17-wai-wcag-minutes.htm DONE change bullet 1 to “Transactions are reversible�?. DONE change bullet 2 to “Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.�? DONE modify bullet 3 to be, "The user is able to review and confirm or correct information before finalizing the transaction."

Resolution: To address your concern with the first bullet we have updated it to require that transactions are reversible rather than actions. The working group believes that the second bullet is important for complicated transactions where it might not be appropriate to review all data in the final step and thus has retained that option. We have updated the wording of the second bullet. The third bullet has been rewritten to make it clear that the user has the opportunity to review the results being submitted before confirming the transaction. We have revised the list in this section as follows: 1. Transactions are reversible. 2. Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process. 3. A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.

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