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Agenda of 3 November 2003 TAG teleconference

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Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week.

1. Administrative (15min)

1. Welcome, Roll Call. Tentative regrets: TBL, NW, PC.
2. Accept the minutes of the 27 Oct teleconference?
3. Accept this agenda?
4. Next meeting: 10 Nov 2003 teleconference

Upcoming meeting topics:

• 27 Oct:
  • Draft finding from NW and DO: Versioning XML Languages, 18 Sep draft. What to include in arch doc?
  • Discuss AC meeting presentation
• 10 Nov: Last meeting to review Arch Doc with possibility of action items

1.1 TAG update at Nov 2003 AC meeting.

1. Action CL 2003/10/27: incorporate input on AC slides and produce another draft. ETA: Wedss

1.2 TAG Nov face-to-face meeting agenda

1. Meeting page

2. Technical (75min)

1. Review of 3023-related actions
2. Review of Architecture Document writing assignments
3. XML Versioning
4. Syntax-based interoperability
5. deepLinking-25

2.1 Review of 3023-related actions

Action CL 2003/10/27: Draft XML mime type thingy with Murata-san.

Actions 2003/10/08: (are these completed?)

1. NW to liaise with Paul Grosso and the XML Core WG
2. TBL and DC to liaise with the IETF regarding obsoleting RFC 3023.
3. TB to talk to authors of 3023 about inclusion as appendix in xml 1.1.
4. TBL and DC will talk to the Architecture Domain Lead.

2.2 Review of Architecture Document writing assignments

Comments on 27 Oct 2003 WD of the Arch Doc?

Recent action items:

TimBray

1. Completed action TB 2003/10/08: Write up a paragraph for section 3 on syntax-based interoperability. (done). See also comments from Mike Champion
2. Completed action TB 2003/10/08: Write a paragraph of rationale for why error handling good in the context of the Web. (done)
3. Completed action TB 2003/10/08: Propose a revised paragraph to replace the "Furthermore" sentence in section 2.3 (done)

Ian

1. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: Add ed note to abstract that the abstract will be rewritten.
2. Action IJ 2003/10/08: Starting from DO's diagram, create a diagram where the relationships and terms are linked back to the context where defined. Ensure that the relationships are in fact used in the narrative; any gaps identified? With DO, work on term relationship diagram.
3. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: Draft good practice note for 4.4.
4. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: In 2.4, add story that shows how two classes of error can arise (inconsistency v. no frag id semantics defined). Frame story in terms of secondary resources.
5. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: Split persistency section into two and move http redirection para there, with appropriate rewrites.
6. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: Update OWL ref since in CR
7. Completed action IJ 2003/10/08: Add a future work section for identifiers that the TAG expects to summarize various URI schemes and what agents can infer from the scheme.

David

1. Completed action DO,NW 2003/10/08: Make the summary to replace 4.5 Extensibility and Versioning in the arch doc (done)

Chris

1. Action CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1.

Norm

1. Completed action NW 2003/10/08: Write up text on information hiding/abstraction respect for before 2/3/4. (done)
2. Action NW 2003/10/08: Revise QName finding. We will also add those two good practice notes to section 2:
   1. If you use Qnames, provide a mapping to URIs.
   2. Don't define an attribute that can take either a URI or a Qname since they are not syntactically distinguishable."
3. Completed action NW 2003/10/08: Rewrite the last paragraph of 4.9.2 to be less inflammatory about DTDs (done)
4. Completed action NW 2003/10/08: Massage three paragraphs following good practice note about persistency at beginning of 2.6. (done)

Roy

1. Action RF 2003/10/08: Explain "identifies" in RFC 2396.

TBL

1. Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about extensibility related to "when to tunnel".

DC

1. Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing examples of freenet and other systems. Progress; see URISchemes/freenet

2.3 XML Versioning

Current draft is 3 Oct 2003 finding

1. Proposed: Add an issue to the TAG issues list: XMLVersioning-41 to help track this.
2. Publication of which draft as draft finding?

2.4 Syntax-based interoperability

1. Long thread starting with proposal from TB
2. See tentative text in section 1.2.4 of 27 Oct draft. Needs review

2.5 Deep-linking 25

• deepLinking-25
  1. Action IJ 2003/09/15: Take back to Comm Team publicity of this finding.

     IJ: Janet Daly suggested that if we want publicity, we should publish as a Working Group Note.

The TAG does not expect to cover these issues

2.5 Findings

See also TAG findings home page.

• whenToUseGet-7: Finding: URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST
• contentPresentation-26: Draft finding: Separation of semantic and presentational markup, to the extent possible, is architecturally sound
• contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of Client handling of MIME headers
  1. Completed action RF 2003/09/15: Proposed substitute text in light of previous comments on charset param. (Done)
  2. Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when user involved in error correction. Is there a new Voice spec out we can point to for example behavior?
  3. Comments from Chris Lilley
  4. Lots of comments from Martin Duerst
• metadataInURI-31

2.2.1 Expected new findings

• siteData-36
• abstractComponentRefs-37