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Agenda of 4 August 2003 TAG teleconference

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Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of business (Boston time) Thursday of this week.

1. Administrative (15min)

1. Roll call. Regrets: DO, DC
2. Accept the 21 Jul face-to-face meeting minutes?
3. Accept the 28 Jul teleconf minutes?
4. Accept this agenda?
5. Next meeting: 11 August teleconf?

2. Technical (75min)

The primary focus of this call will be on the 1 August 2003 Editor's Draft of the Arch Doc.

Actions related to Architecture Document

Note that section numbers of these action items are with respect to the draft.

Completed actions:

• Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Revise text in section 2.1 about risk of false negatives in comparing URIs.
• Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Reword the good practice note with new term for "spelling" based on "character string".
• Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Prune instances of "scheme name" except when referring to string component before ":"; RF calls this "scheme component".
• Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Include POST (and other methods) as examples of deref methods at beginning of 2.5.
• Completed action TB 2003/07/21: Continue Oaxaca story for beginning of section on messages, showing GET (with details) and POST (with details). (Done)
• Completed action NW 2003/07/21: Rewrite 3.2.2.3 (Done)
• Completed action IJ 2003/07/21: Produce Editor's Draft Weds or Thurs of next week.
• Completed action TB 2003/07/28: Propose text for architecture document that distinguishes "information resource" from other types of "resources". (Done)
• Completed action CL 2003/07/21: Redraw diagram showing relationship between URI/Resource/Representation with (1) English words (2) no more "isa" arrows; just label objects.(Done (png, svg))

Open action items:

• Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 3 (section number in 1 Aug draft). Section 3 is expected to be short.
• Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of "Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF.
• Action TBL 2003/07/14: Suggest changes to section about extensibility related to "when to tunnel".
• Action CL 2003/07/21: Create an illustration of two resources, one designated by URI without fragment, and one designated by same URI with fragment...
• Action IJ, CL 2003/07/21: Discuss and propose improved wording of language regarding SVG spec in bulleted list in 2.5.1.
• Action TBL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement to "URI persistence ...person's mailbox" in 2.6 and continue to revise TBL draft of section 2.6 based on TAG's 23 July discussion.
• Action DC 2003/07/21: Propose language for section 2.8.5 showing examples of freenet and other systems.
• Action TB and CL 2003/07/21: Propose a replacement sentence in section 3.2.2.1 regarding advantages of text formats.

Action items related to SVG spec that have been transferred to the SVG issues list:

• Action CL 2003/07/21: For SVG 1.2, tighten up language regarding use of GET for a element/href attribute. Also, ensure that SVG 1.2 is clear on CE vs CTE

Findings in Progress

• whenToUseGet-7: 9 July 2003 draft of URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST
  • DO said he had additional comments at 21 July 2003 ftf meeting.
  • See comments from Noah
• contentTypeOverride-24: 9 July 2003 draft of Client handling of MIME headers
  1. Comments from Roy on charset param
  2. Comments from Philipp Hoschka about usability issues when user involved in error correction
  3. Comments from Chris Lilley
• xmlIDSemantics-32:
  1. Chris Lilley draft finding.
  2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new input from reviewers. 7 July Deadline.
• contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a draft finding on content/presentation.
• metadataInURI-31: 8 July 2003 draft of "The use of Metadata in URIs"
  • Action DO 2003/07/07: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside the URI.
  • See also TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI schemes instead of headers
• abstractComponentRefs-37
  • Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask them for their analysis.
• Action IJ 2003/07/21: Update Deep linking finding (i.e., create a new revision) with references to German court decision regarding deep linking. No additional review required since just an external reference.
• Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn TB apple story into a finding.

3. Bin

Identifiers (URIEquivalence-15 , IRIEverywhere-27)

• URIEquivalence-15
  • SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where Tim Bray text has been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this issue to pending state.
• IRIEverywhere-27
  • Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of IRIs.
  • Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications that handle IRIs are inconsistent. TBL draft not yet available on www-tag.
  • See TB's proposed step forward on IRI 27.

Qnames, fragments, and media types(rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6, fragmentInXML-28, abstractComponentRefs-37, putMediaType-38)

• rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
  • Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema desideratum (RQ-23).
• fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
  1. Connection to content negotiation?
  2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
  3. No actions associated / no owner.
• abstractComponentRefs-37(discussed above).
• putMediaType-38

New and other Issues requested for discussion. (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33, RDFinXHTML-35, siteData-36 plus possible new issues)

Existing Issues:

• mixedUIXMLNamespace-33
• RDFinXHTML-35
• siteData-36
  • Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36

Possible New Issues

• Visibility of Web Services, raised by Mark Baker
• Character model conformance, raised by TBL
• Meaning of URIs in RDF documents, raised by TBL

Other issues

• namespaceDocument-8
  • Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a canonical mapping to RDF.
  • Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue, pointing to the RDDL Note. See comments from Paul regarding TB theses.
  • Refer to draft TAG opinion from Tim Bray on the use of URNs for namespace names.
• uriMediaType-9
  • IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft (see email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close this issue?
  • Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
• HTTPSubstrate-16
  • Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended to be excluded from RFC 3205
  • See message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
• xlinkScope-23
  • See draft, and SW message to CG chairs.
  • Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking for an update on xlinkScope-23.
• binaryXML-30
  • Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on adding to survey.
  • Action IJ 2003/07/21: Add link from issues list binaryXML-30 to upcoming workshop
  • Next steps to finding? See summary from Chris.
• xmlFunctions-34
  • Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to XML Core work. See email from TimBL capturing some of the issues.
• charmodReview-17
  1. Completed action IJ 2003/07/14: Move issue 17 to pending rather than resolved.
  2. Completed action DC: Remind I18N WG of what we are expecting regarding issue 17; send this on behalf of the TAG (Done).

Other actions

• Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. IJ and PLH making substantial progress on this; hope to have something to show in May.