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<ericP> scribe: claudio
Jacek: any suggestion for modifying agenda? No, approved
Jacek: no objections, on last telco minute, approved,
RESOLUTION: minutes of 2006/06/13 telcon approved
<JacekK> ACTION: Terry to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action01]
<JacekK> ACTION: EricP to review last call of WSDL RDF mapping http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20-rdf/ by beginning of July [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action02]
<JacekK> ACTION: Amit and Rama (and anybody interested) to suggest definition of semantics [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action03]
<JacekK> ACTION: ericP to use Amazon WSDL as a real concrete example [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action04]
<JacekK> ACTION: Rama to try and come up with a better annotation for the subsection "Annotating operations with model references" [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action05]
<JacekK> ACTION: Rama to send an email to open an issue on whether we target B2B or B2C [DROPPED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action06]
<JacekK> ACTION: team contacts to let the editors know about the standard reference style [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action07]
<ericP> W3C house style
ericP: why not using xslt to check the reference style?
Jacek: lets leave the action item open
Jacek: next f2f August 29, 30 in Turin, Italy confirmed
... Cancelled telcons August 1, August 8
... I will ask some W3C representative to chair July 18, July 25 telcons
Laura: I have to leave the conference because of phone connection problems
Jacek: lets list what has to be done for first public working draft
... check first if there are big issues because of what spec release may be delayed
... following F2F minutes weve to rename the example so that it is B2B like and finalize table of contents
... list of elements section by section or person by person for comments before publications? section by section
Rama: how to highlight comments or editing on the document?
EricP: propose diff tool?
Jacek: if we have substantial issue (not purely editorial) should go to the list not just to editors
Rama: suggestion: depending on the kind of comment just send the comment or send a modified version of the document
... i have a concern on saying "extending wsdl20" in the abstract
Jacek: disagree it is technically an extension
... defining extensibility attribute instead of extending WSDL 20, lets leave the problem to editors
<ericP> This document describes a set of extension attributes for the Web Services Description Language 2.0...
Joel: change from word ontology to semantic model
<AmitS> "using references to ontologies" -> "using reference to ontoligies and conceptual models"
<AmitS> For example
<ericP> replace "ontologies" with "semantic models"
<AmitS> 2.1 SAWSDL Schema Mapping -> 2.2 SAWSDL Schema Mapping
<AmitS> Semantic Annotation
<AmitS> John: add simple type to the list
Rama: section 1.4 running example it is difficult to understand for the reader
Jacek: rise an issue adding annotation to example in sec 1.4
<JacekK> ISSUE: add SAWSDL annotations to 1.4
<ericP> Joel, can you get rid of an extra '"' at Line 463 column 29 near '<a href="#AnnotatingElements"">Annotating Elements With Model Reference</a>' and commit so i can validate the document?
<ericP> i'm trying to raise any issues that could come up
Jacek: section 2 should deal with extensibility attribute inconsistency?
Rama: explain better the meaning of schema mapping? Make clear what lowering and lifting mean
Joel: 2.1.1 categorization should be categorization/product
Jacek: following paragraph use ontology in appendix d should be sent to appendix D
... 2.1.5 seems to be out of context
... Ill send a list of the points to ML
<ericP> scribe: ericP
move last sentence of 3rd para of 2.2 higher and generalize to lifting and lowering schema mappings
joel will fix the ...SchemaMappings text to say "alternative URIs" or something like that
<JacekK> ISSUE: add justification for why model references all apply and schema mappings are alternatives
Amit: link to WSDL-S submission?
ericP: we generally just include what implementors need know to parse the doc
John: why not UML 2.0 (currently 1.5)?
JacekK: if it is an approved final standard, yes
Joel: could includes WSDL-S to say why we don't include preconditions and effects
Rama: RosettaNet does not include an onotlogy. We should make a sample ontoloty.
JacekK: can we rename Resetta to Order?
Rama: what's teh deadline for editorial submissions to the editors?
EricP: was whenever we approve the publication, that is, now
<JacekK> comments list: firstname.lastname@example.org
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to create the comments list public-ws-semann-comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action08]
<JacekK> ACTION: jacekk to check moving the f2f by one day later [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/sawsdl/minutes/20060627#action09]
JacekK: Summary of changes (added to minutes, not summarized in teleconference)
... abstract: change "set of extensions to" to "set of extension attributes for"
... abstract: change "ontologies" to "semantic models, e.g. ontologies,"
... TOC: fix 2.2 (currently as 2.1)
... section 2, second bullet: add simple types
... section 2: use "constructs" and "components" consistently
... section 2.1.1: add "/products/electronics" to the model reference URI http://example.org/categorization
... section 2.1.1: move paragraph starting with "The modelReference points to concept" and the following listing to appendix D, replace with text about the modelReference pointing to a category in a taxonomy
... section 2: rename rosetta to order, (Team will perhaps add ".example" to the URIs to make it easier for us to publish)
... sections 2.1.5 and 2.1.6: move the last sentences to 2.1.4, combine them
... section 2.2: add introductory paragraph about what schema mappings do, using the last sentence of the third paragraph generalized for both types of schema mapping
... section 2.2: change "is a URI that references a mapping definition" to "is a list of URIs that reference mapping definitions" in two places
... references: change UML reference to point to 2.0 or later, whatever is current
... appendix A: change urn:myCat to match model reference from section 2.1.1
RESOLUTION: we will publish First Public Working Draft when all the changes agreed here are implemented and verified by editors and chair