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minutes from 30th Jan, 6th Feb, and the F2F approved
gcowe: we suggested F2F 18-20 April
pauld: heard a lot of love for
the WG at the Workshop last week
... challenge is to turn that into participation
... maybe we could have an event to promote our work with implementers
jonc: a day at a F2F, maybe May-June to promote our testsuite sounds good
gcowe: are we ready for that, we need to do more work to be in a position to run an event
pauld: a F2F to prepare our
testsuite and documentation might be a good way forward
... I'd like to get the likes of XFire and WSO2 onto a test report and have
them compete to be interoperble
jonc: would that encourage others
to participate?
... a publicised webinar might get people in and not involve commitment on their part
pauld: a screencast might be an idea,
something can run in their own home
... show checking of a schema using the patterns detection
service with a toolkit.
yves: publishing a version of the test report will help a lot - people will send comments
jonc: been looking for missing
patterns in BT WSDLs
... choice still being throw up as unknown
... in particular choice with different cardinalities
<pauld:> wonders why "we're" using choice, given it's not a basic pattern
pauld: are you making the
patterns more generic, or adding more patterns?
... just tred carefully making the patterns too generic
gcowe: need to look into this further
pauld: best to build up with fine grained patterns
yves: been working on the
checking of the response XML to request XML
... attributeDefault required a specific check
... close to having something "good enough"
... ready to work on aggregation
... verification is based on the example name, e.g integer
triggers integer comparison
pauld: working on pattern detection for schemas in the wild
pauld: toolkit.xml excludes
examples which cause barfing
... runit HTTP POSTs instance documents and builds
output.xml
... as usual I'm the weakest link, and you guys are making me
look worse, so that's good news :)
gcowe: so the one service does all the operations?
pauld: yes
gcowe: barf-dancing for Axis took an hour and a half with the deploy/undeploy step
pauld: still not updated EXIT,
sorry!
... have had some new comments
... philippe asked "is choice a basic pattern"
... difficult to tell at present, philippe has offered to help
build a table at the end of the spec for the use of each schema
element
... Hugo also commented on the complexity of XPaths, I'll try
and tidy them up, and write an introduction
jonc: we've found that some
XPaths have to be complex
... we've found the XPath reported for "unknowns" isn't always
valid
gcowe: it looks like an XPath, but maybe the stylesheet is breaking the lines up and making them invalid?
pauld: sounds like a bug! I wrote that code, maybe you could send mail and I'll fix it
jonc: a certain toolkit
"voldermort" is rejecting our schemas, which contain circular
references
... can we write an XPath to detect that?
pauld: possibly within a single
schema document
... or a WSDL
... but not with import and include, not easily that is
... we have the same issue with inheritance
... we could apply an assertion in our basic spec against circular dependencies
... we need to add assertions to the validation service -for encoding etc
jonc: would circular dependencies
and mandatory links is asking for trouble
... minOccurs="n>0" is asking for trouble
pauld: raise an issue
OK we'll meet again in two weeks time
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