ISSUE-28: Use of fragment identifiers in XML

fragmentInXML-28

Use of fragment identifiers in XML

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Raised by:
Tim Berners-Lee
Opened on:
2002-10-31
Description:

"agreed on 12 May 2004

* In general, the fragment part of a URI may be used to refer to abstractions as well as syntactic fragments of a representation; the media type identifies a specification, which explains the semantics. "

see also abstractComponentRefs-37 ISSUE-37; lump this in?

Do fragment identifiers refer to a syntactic element (at least for XML content), or can they refer to abstractions?

Example from
17.2.2 SVG fragment identifiers :

MyDrawing.svg#svgView(viewBox(0,200,1000,1000));

The SVG spec states "This form of addressing specifies the desired view of the document (e.g., the region of the document to view, the initial zoom level) completely within the SVG fragment specification."

From Dan Connolly:
Do you consider the quoted paragraph above in error?

Or do you disagree with my interpretation of it, i.e. that MyDrawing.svg#svgView(viewBox(0,200,1000,1000)) identifes a view of the drawing, and not any particular XML element (nor other syntactic structure) in the document.

http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#fragmentInXML-28
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Related emails:
  1. Summary and minutes of the 17-18 September 2013 Advisory Board face-to-face meeting (from coralie@w3.org on 2013-10-03)
  2. Summary and minutes of the 12-13 June 2013 Advisory Board face-to-face meeting (from coralie@w3.org on 2013-07-18)
  3. TAG minutes 10 Sep for review (f2f planning, websockets URI scheme, HTML, ...) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-09-16)
  4. Approved minutes of the TAG F2F of 3-5 March 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-04-02)
  5. Agenda for TAG Face-to-Face Meeting, 3-5 March 2009 (Redwood Shores, CA) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-25)
  6. 'Syntax and semantics for embedding RDF in XHTML' TAG issue addressed by RDFa and GRDDL (RDFinHTML-35) (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-12-04)
  7. Agenda for TAG F2F Meeting 23-25th September 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-17)
  8. Minutes from 19th Sept (from rhys@volantis.com on 2007-09-20)
  9. TAG telcon (from on 2005-11-01)
  10. TAG Weekly (from on 2005-05-31)
  11. TAG (from on 2005-05-10)
  12. Tag weekly meeting Feb 7, 2005 (from on 2005-02-07)
  13. Tag weekly meeting Feb 7, 2005 (from on 2005-02-07)
  14. Minutes of 12-14 May 2004 TAG FTF meeting in Boston (from on 2004-05-12)
  15. Minutes of 12-14 May 2004 TAG FTF meeting in Boston (from on 2004-05-12)
  16. Minutes of 12-14 May 2004 TAG FTF meeting in Boston (from on 2004-05-12)
  17. Minutes of 4 Nov 2002 TAG teleconference (from on 2002-11-04)
  18. Re: Use of fragment identifiers in XML (from Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> on 2002-10-31)

Related notes:

hmm... tracker doesn't distinguish between "decided" and "all relevant work done"

The TAG decided the main points of this issue in May 2004
http://www.w3.org/2004/05/14-tag-summary#fragmentInXML-28

Chris took the ball at that point; later HT picked it up.
http://www.w3.org/2005/02/07-tagmem-minutes#action12

I consider that action withdrawn/moot, but I think we still have work to do on this issue.

24 Aug 2007, 00:00:00

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