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<noah> scribe: Noah Mendelsohn (until Roy on irc)
<noah> scribenick: noah
Here: Norm Walsh, TimBL, Roy Fielding, Dan Connolly, Noah Mendelsohn
<scribe> New members joining us on the phone: Henry Thompson, Vincent Quint, Ed Rice
TBL: I have mostly left day-to-day chair duties to Stuart
... Reviews some history of group, issues, etc.
Henry reports Ed Rice is attending by phone.
TBL: Arch doc was just published and we have many new members. This is probably a good time to take stock of where we are, review issues we intentionally left alone before, etc.
Norm: Stuart sent agenda change requests at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2005Jan/0057.html
... Didn't have time to integrate into formally republished agenda, but we'll do it on the fly as we go.
<scribe> scribe: Roy Fielding
<scribe> scribenick: Roy
<DanC> 2nd, as amended
RESOLUTION: Accept minutes from Jan 24, as amended
Norm: Does anyone have suggestions on what should be on agenda?
<DanC> (half day monday, I think, Norm)
Noah: look at the state of play for our work going forward, think about new findings and bat them around, see what new members think for future work
... perhaps half an hour
Ed: Recap of what has been done, set expectations
RF: how do we get around to maintaining the TAG pages on a regular basis
Vincent: would like to work/think on that as part of co-chair role
Norm: [smells a volunteer]
TBL: TAG is an example where tools that the W3C team supports have been usefully applied to assist our work, and in the long term we hope to improve the tools available
<DanC> (I read something that suggested the WS-Addressing WG had decided to keep everything in the URI, which is exactly what I wanted, so I'm not sure we need any time at all.)
<scribe> ACTION: Noah to to talk to Mark Nottingham about what and how long discussion to take at F2F re WS-Addressing
Norm: do we have any suggestion for a moderator for panel session?
DanC: does anyone have a 10-20 word summary of topic?
RF: agenda lists Paul Downey as moderator
Norm: sounds fine to me
... any suggestion on how to improve panel focus
Noah: do we have an owner?
Norm: Stuart has been setting it up, but nobody has been assigned ownership
Noah: how about the owner of the TP agenda, do we know who that is?
DanC: I think Paul Downey is on the program committee
Norm: I will work with Stuart for Feb 28 morning schedule/agenda
... I am at risk for early morning (traffic)
... Liaisons are missing people identified as attending the liaison meetings
TimBL, Henry, Ed, Vincent, Noah, and Norm will attend 3 March 12:30 meeting with Voice Browser WG
<noah> Norm: Tech plenary meeting with schema seems to have fallen through, but Feb. 14 joint telcon is still on.
DanC: don't recall us being resolved on the QA response ... oh, looks like we are
DanC: does anyone have the ball to input info on most recent issue?
Noah: at best we need to track what the WS-Aggressing group is doing
... it is an issue of how the parameters get into the URI
TBL: also, whether URI is being used as an identifier or just another payload carrier
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to ask about http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/wd-issues/#i001
Noah: concern about exposing aspects of the implementation within the URI
... that is one of the things they are discussing
HT: I thought the arguments were finely balanced, not obvious which is the straightforward path for doing dispatch, i.e. URI versus properties
DanC: there doesn't seem to be a summary item for what problem is being solved by WSA
TBL: perhaps object-oriented architecture?
Noah: also information hiding issues
[more discussion about what people might be thinking about in regards to WSA]
Norm: hopefully our discussion with WSA at F2F will help clarify the issue
<DanC> (re ws-addressing usecase/requirements, or lack thereof, I looked at the charter, and it says "standardize the ws-addressing spec")
<Henry> DanC, you at least can read the Arch Dom f2f minutes at http://www.w3.org/2004/12/arch-f2f-minutes.html, search for "EPRs and URIs"
Norm: Let the minutes record our official thanks for Paul, Stuart, and Chris for their excellent work on the TAG
ALL: universal agreement
Norm: when we last talked about F2F, Chris volunteered to host, need to consider new venue or date?
... also, weekly TAG call, should we change the time?
... Plan time at Tech Plenary to try to figure out a better time for everyone for weekly telecon
<DanC> (playing teleconference tiddlywinks in our ftf telcon seems like poor use of time. I wonder if I should set up the WBS form... hmm... not trivial.)
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note IETF/W3C telcon got moved to this week, either Tue or Thu, probably Thu
DanC: contact me if you have anything to pass along to the IETF during meeting
<Henry> DanC, Re IETF call -- I've tried to send mail clarifying that it was 3023 I'm concerned about, not 3028, but it's been held by the moderator . . .
<DanC> yeah, henry. don't worry about it any more.
Noah: maybe we should revisit what parts of E+V belong with TAG and what belongs elsewhere
Norm: Feb 7 telcon -- Vincent will chair that meeting
Ed: volunteers to scribe for Feb 7