[clreq] Translation issue and question about "Arrangement of tables and/or illustrations" (#369)

NightFurySL2001 has just created a new issue for https://github.com/w3c/clreq:

== Translation issue and question about "Arrangement of tables and/or illustrations" ==
In 2.4.2 (3)(1 and 2), the translation for the sub points are weird and labelled "Check this translation". However, there is a bigger confusion arises from these line.

https://github.com/w3c/clreq/blob/d4cf48684f03e75956a7459be04b3139c32e0e9b/index.html#L1226
https://github.com/w3c/clreq/blob/d4cf48684f03e75956a7459be04b3139c32e0e9b/index.html#L1231

In Chinese, there are two terms that can be used to describe a table: 行 and 列. The corresponding terms in English are "row" and "column". However, in different regions, the Chinese terms are used differently: in China, 行 refers to row and 列 refers to column; in Taiwan however, 列 refers to row and 行 refers to column. [(Reference)](https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic:U3b8ags204w4rqvy) This might causes issues when trying to describe how tables are arranged across different regions. My understanding is that 行 usually goes in the same direction as the general writing direction, while 列 is perpendicular to the direction of writing. For the ease of understanding, I have made this following diagram:

![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/33471049/118107250-1a159d80-b411-11eb-9079-2dc1fb09a5db.png)

This will involve how the terms in English should be mapped: either the row/header are described in terms of relative writing direction, or in terms of absolute writing direction. I would prefer the terms in English to be described in terms of relative writing direction, thus 列 will always be translated to column, while 行 will always be translated to row with no regards to the writing direction.

Also, the section title was "Arrangement of tables and/or illustrations."/"表格、图片等标题栏的位置" which we should expect any descriptions about the title itself.

Thus, my suggestions for the translation fixes are as follow:

https://github.com/w3c/clreq/blob/d4cf48684f03e75956a7459be04b3139c32e0e9b/index.html#L1226
> In vertical writing mode, list the column (incrementing towards the left) headers at the right of table and the row (incrementing going down) headers at the top of table; put the title of the tables and/or illustrations at the left or right side.
> 直排时,表格横列(往左递增)的标题列位右侧,直行(往下递增)的标题列位上方;表格、图片等标题置放于左或右侧。

https://github.com/w3c/clreq/blob/d4cf48684f03e75956a7459be04b3139c32e0e9b/index.html#L1231
> In horizontal writing mode, list the column (incrementinggoing down) headers at the right of table and the row (incrementing towards the right) headers at the top of table; put the title of the tables and/or illustrations at the top or bottom.
> 横排时,表格直列(往下递增)的标题列位上方,横行(往右递增)的标题列位左侧;表格、图片等标题置放于左或右边。

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