Re: action-407 proposed language - Section 5, User Preferences

I believe that IE10 (to the extent that it is default set to on) would
violate the language re: Action-231, issue-153 we just discussed.

From:  Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
Date:  Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:41 PM
To:  Chris Mejia <chris.mejia@iab.net>
Cc:  W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org>, Alan
Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com>, Mike Zaneis <mike@iab.net>, Nick
Nicholas  Doty - W3C <npdoty@w3.org>, Lou Mastria - DAA <lou@aboutads.info>,
Marc Groman - NAI <mgroman@networkadvertising.org>
Subject:  Re: action-407 proposed language - Section 5, User Preferences

>  
>  Chris, 
> 
> This is your text proposal.  I'm not going to interpret it for you.
> 
> If the language is vague in its application to one of the most common and
> controversial implementations, that seems like a substantial drawback.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>  
>   
> 
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Chris Mejia wrote:
>  
>>  
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> If you believe that to be the case, please feel free to submit your use-case
>> analysis for IE10 in context of this text.  I think that might be useful, so
>> we may examine how this proposed text might be interpreted.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group |
>> Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB | chris.mejia@iab.net
>> 
>> 
>> From: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:30 AM
>> To: Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net>
>> Cc: W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org>, Alan Chapell
>> - Chapell Associates <achapell@chapellassociates.com>, Mike Zaneis - IAB
>> <mike@iab.net>, "Nicholas \"Nick\" Doty - W3C" <npdoty@w3.org>, Lou Mastria -
>> DAA <lou@aboutads.info>, Marc Groman - NAI <mgroman@networkadvertising.org>
>> Subject: Re: action-407 proposed language - Section 5, User Preferences
>> 
>> Chris, 
>> 
>> Would Internet Explorer 10 be in compliance with this language?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Chris Mejia wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alan Chapell and I worked on this, per our "homework" assignment on the
>>> working group call 2-weeks ago.  Here's our proposal below.  Please note
>>> that I'm not crazy about 5.1.4, the "G flag" idea, but Alan had support for
>>> this idea from folks he's worked with, so we are leaving it in for further
>>> discussion.
>>> 
>>> C. Mejia
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 5. User Preferences
>>> 
>>> Any agent or program that sets or alters a user¹s tracking preference
>>> expression MUST obtain express and informed consent from the individual user
>>> before setting or altering the setting of controls that affect the user¹s
>>> tracking preference expression. The controls MUST communicate the individual
>>> user's preference in accordance with the [TRACKING-DNT
>>> <http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/drafts/tracking-compliance.html#
>>> bib-TRACKING-DNT> ] recommendation.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 5.1 Tracking Preference Choices. User agents or programs that set or alter
>>> tracking preference expression choices for users (the ³agent² or ³agents²)
>>> MUST follow the following user interface guidelines:
>>> 
>>> 1.    The agent must be the party responsible for determining the user
>>> experience by which a tracking preference is controlled;
>>> 
>>> 2.     The agent MUST ensure that tracking preference choices are
>>> communicated to users clearly and accurately and are shown at the time and
>>> place the tracking preference choice is made available to a user or altered;
>>> 
>>> 3.     The agent SHOULD ensure that the tracking preference choices
>>> accurately describe the parties to whom DNT applies and SHOULD make
>>> available explanatory text to provide more detailed information about DNT¹s
>>> operational effects on the user.
>>> 
>>> 4.    Agents that don¹t meet the criteria listed in 5.1.3 MUST include a
>>> flag "G" that signals that a Agent is unable to comply with these
>>> guidelines. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 5.2 Tracking Preference Exception. Agents or programs offering tracking
>>> preference expression choices to users, or that alter the tracking
>>> preference expression of a user(s), MUST comply with these user interface
>>> guidelines:
>>> 
>>> 1.    web sites are responsible for determining the user experience by which
>>> a tracking exception is controlled;
>>> 
>>> 2.     sites offering tracking exceptions MUST ensure that tracking
>>> exception choices are communicated to users clearly and accurately and shown
>>> at the time and place the tracking preference exception is made available to
>>> a user;
>>> 
>>> 3.     sites SHOULD ensure that the tracking preference choices accurately
>>> describe the parties to whom DNT applies and SHOULD make available
>>> explanatory text to provide more detailed information about DNT
>>> functionality.
>>> 
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>>      
>   
>  
>