Re: I18N-ACTION-1080: Ping unicode about establishing a langtag online subtag reference

Hello John,

I understand your and Martin's point about  who should host such a language
tag registry. This is a difficult topic, and I am currently not deeply
enough involved in both organizations to be able to formulate a useful
opinion.

About endorsements of proprietary services: that is indeed a
misunderstanding. A standards body should host its own service, so that
others do not have to refer to proprietary services as the first reference.

- Felix

On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 15:41, John C Klensin <john+w3c@jck.com> wrote:

> Felix,
>
> Martin's question highlights another issue, one of possible
> (likely, I think) confusion between two, apparently similar,
> registries hosted by different organizations.  I hate to suggest
> this given the very sorry state of i18n work in the IETF, but
> wouldn't it make more sense to ask the IETF to have IANA set up
> a registry for this purpose with appropriate cross references
> between the two?
>
> And, FWIW, I may misunderstand part of your comment but I have
> no idea what it means for a standards body to endorse a
> collection of proprietary services.
>
>    john
>
>
> --On Friday, September 17, 2021 10:28 +0200 Felix Sasaki
> <felix@sasakiatcf.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Martin,
> >
> > The action item is not about language subtags but about
> > language tags.
> >
> > The RDF community has developed several (non standardized) Web
> > services that provide information about languages and related
> > information, see e.g. http://lexvo.org/
> > The information is accessible as RDF, with unique URIs for
> > languages. The unique URIs are also cited in standards like
> > DCAT.
> >
> > Such services are proprietary. The idea of this action item is
> > to consider a service, hosted and endorsed by a standards
> > body, providing URIs for languages.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Felix
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 09:28, Martin J. Dürst
> > <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm somewhat confused by this action item. There is the
> >> official subtag registry at
> >>
> >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/lan
> >> guage-subtag-registry
> >>
> >> Why would Unicode have to get involved?
> >>
> >> Regards,   Martin.
> >>
> >> On 2021-09-16 23:11, Internationalization Working Group Issue
> >> Tracker wrote:
> >> > I18N-ACTION-1080: Ping unicode about establishing a langtag
> >> > online
> >> subtag reference
> >> >
> >> > https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1080
> >> >
> >> > Assigned to: Addison Phillips
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
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