RE: [ACTION-603] Conversation with Yves, our HTTP expert, about CT and Cache-Control extensions

> Well I guess we may have to agree to disagree :)  My opinion is that
the user's preference trumps the content providers.



I do strongly disagree! I don't think that publishing something on the
Web implies that anyone can do what they like with it.

 

Jo

 

 

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From: Aaron Kemp [mailto:kemp@google.com] 
Sent: 06 February 2008 15:26
To: Jo Rabin
Cc: Sullivan, Bryan; public-bpwg-ct
Subject: Re: [ACTION-603] Conversation with Yves, our HTTP expert, about
CT and Cache-Control extensions

 

On Feb 5, 2008 1:34 PM, Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi> wrote:

	> I see no reason to stop users from accessing the content they
want.

	I think this is a good example of where the user's desires and
the CPs desires are in conflict. And it seems reasonable to me that a
CP's instruction should be obeyed even if it doesn't make sense to you.
For example, if for some irrational reason I say I don't want my content
delivered to browser x, you should not thwart my intention and desire.


Well I guess we may have to agree to disagree :)  My opinion is that the
user's preference trumps the content providers.

Now, if a content provider _truly_ has some reason to hide their content
from people, despite putting it on the open web then they could block
content transformation proxies by IP I suppose.  However, if they were
going to go to this length, it would be much easier to specify a simple
mobile alternative saying "Gee, I can't be bothered to make a good
mobile version, please visit my site from your desktop."
 

	To my mind this is at the heart of why we need something more
fine grained than no-transform. It wouldn't usually make sense for a CP
to prevent transformation of a page to WML if the general look and feel
is preserved. On the other hand there are loads of use cases where it
makes perfect sense for the CP not to want the content delivered at all
if you were going to re-paginate it.


I think it's going to be very hard to define a set of rules (extensions)
for no-transform that cover everything.  Pagination is only one
dimension of a very complex problem.
 
Aaron