RE: lvtf-ACTION-51: Write user need on "non-text contrast" - [can change the name, border, grids, etc]

Ø  and regions of content

Wayne, thank you for writing that up.  This is the part that concerns me as it is currently too subjective.  We would need to define what regions must have borders with sufficient contrast.  Too many border could be problematic and this would never be accepted by design folks.

Jonathan

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From: Wayne Dick [mailto:wayneedick@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 3:21 AM
To: Jonathan Avila
Cc: Jim Allan; Low Vision Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: lvtf-ACTION-51: Write user need on "non-text contrast" - [can change the name, border, grids, etc]

What about this wording for a need:

Users with low vision require sufficient contrast to be able to distinguish the borders of form controls and regions of content that authors call out by providing borders. Borders should have contrast rations equal to or greater than the minimum contrast ratio for text on the page. This applies to all form controls including radio buttons and check boxes.
Does this do it?


On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>> wrote:

>  That said, I think this is a major issue to be added to WCAG. Minimum contrast (WCAG 1.4.3) should apply to more than only text and images of text content. It should apply to form controls and other elements with borders.

I agree and I have two comments.


1.    After talking with  some designers I was told that they need clear recommendations on this with specific numbers and rationale in order to implement such as design change – just indicating it is helpful to users isn’t enough.  From what I found the size of the control may make a difference – that is the border on a checkbox may be more important than the border on an input field due to the size of the control.   Would we consider less contrast for larger size controls like SC 1.4.3 does for text?

2.    Some sites such as goFundMe.com have input fields with no borders on the inputs. We might want to consider whether we see this as an issue.  To see the issue go to gofundme and then select a person to donate to  and click the donate button.  This is a very unfortunate design decision in my opinion.

3.    We might also consider what happens to borders when a user is in high contrast mode.

Jonathan

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From: Jim Allan [mailto:jimallan@tsbvi.edu<mailto:jimallan@tsbvi.edu>]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: lvtf-ACTION-51: Write user need on "non-text contrast" - [can change the name, border, grids, etc]

Note: 3.5.1 Element-level customization talks about borders and colors. perhaps we can expand the explanatory text to illustrate the need to change "non-text contrast".

That said, I think this is a major issue to be added to WCAG. Minimum contrast (WCAG 1.4.3) should apply to more than only text and images of text content. It should apply to form controls and other elements with borders.
Jim

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org<mailto:sysbot+tracker@w3.org>> wrote:
lvtf-ACTION-51: Write user need on "non-text contrast" - [can change the name, border, grids, etc]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/track/actions/51


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