Re: Please reopen ISSUE-10

This was likely my fault, directly or indirectly, in a moment of optimism when it looked like we were all agreeing and just needed to write the agreement down. Real life turned out not to be so simple. 

Bottom line: Roy is right. Issue-10 is not closed. 

I will refrain from fixing it, but add my voice to Roy's. 

	Aleecia

On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:13 AM, Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> wrote:

> I was just trying to connect several threads on the definitions of
> party, first party, and third party and found that ISSUE-10
> (What is a first party?) was closed on April 11 (at the DC f2f).
> 
> That doesn't make any sense -- we have not been able to reach
> consensus on any of those definitions.  So, I looked at the meeting
> minutes and find that it was closed because the "three proposals
> under discussion" had roughly the same definitions.  Huh?
> 
> First, the WG has never signed off on any of those proposals, so
> I don't care if they had rough agreement -- none of them addressed
> the problems previously raised, they did not result in only
> one option being chosen in the compliance, and they didn't even
> come close to consensus.  Clearly, the issue is undecided.
> 
> Second, when an issue is proposed to be closed at a F2F, I expect
> to see a ping on the mailing list so that those not in attendance
> (or those who simply looked away for 10 seconds) can review the
> decision and raise concerns.  That did not occur here.  In fact,
> there was nothing to note that the issue had been closed except for
> the changelog within tracker, which gave me a date, which I guessed
> was around a meeting, and which I could manually find the minutes
> based on the URL pattern of the day before.
> 
> Please reopen ISSUE-10 until there is actual text in the
> compliance document that survives a call for consensus.
> Although it is related to ISSUE-60, ISSUE-73, and ISSUE-49, there
> is no other issue that addresses what is included within the
> definition of party.
> 
> ....Roy
> 
>

Received on Wednesday, 23 January 2013 11:49:12 UTC