Re: More comments on Primer

Hi Nandana,

On 3/23/15 5:13 PM, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
> Hi Andrei,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback!
> 
> Regarding the first comment, we discussed that in the list sometimes
> back but I didn't take any follow up action. Now reading rest of the
> emails from the thread "LDPR Interaction Model on Create", I think it is
> reasonable to go for this change. So if no one objects, you can go ahead
> with the change (if not I can do it in ACTION-158),
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Oct/0018.html

Thanks, I will do the change myself.

> 
> Regarding the second comment, isn't that case covered in "Section 2.7
> Structural Manipulation (Child Containers)"?
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-primer/ldp-primer.html#structural-manipulation-child-containers

I see. I wonder if we could make it more explicit. I suppose that could
also be the reason why I didn't find the example in the first place.
Should I prepare a text and/or discuss this with your offline?

-- Andrei

> 
> Best Regards,
> Nandana
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Andrei Sambra <andrei@w3.org
> <mailto:andrei@w3.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     After reading the primer again, I would also like to make a couple of
>     comments.
> 
>     First comment.
>     --------------
> 
>     The example in section 2.3 "Creating a RDF resource (POST an RDF
>     resource to an LDP-BC)" shows how a POST to a container creates a new
>     resource in it.
> 
>     However, it does not indicate what type of resource is supposed to be
>     created, since no Link header is present in the request. To me, the
>     request should be following the client interaction model described in
>     the LDP spec (section 5.2.3.4). One reason why I am trying to push for
>     an explicit interaction is that POST should not by default create member
>     resources. We should try to avoid overloading the semantics for a
>     "blank" POST to a Container, in case we or someone else would like to
>     use POST for a different interaction.
> 
>     For that reason, I suggest adding the appropriate Link header to the
>     example:
> 
>     POST /alice/ HTTP/1.1
>     Host: example.org <http://example.org>
>     Slug: foaf
>     Content-Type: text/turtle
>     Link: <http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp#Resource>; rel="type"
> 
> 
>     Second comment (related).
>     -------------------------
> 
>     There are no examples showing how to create containers! Is there any
>     chance we can have at least one example? Again, the only difference
>     between creating a resource and a container lies in the Link header
>     being sent -- e.g. to create a "pictures" container under
>     http://example.org/alice/, one could do the following:
> 
>     POST /alice/ HTTP/1.1
>     Host: example.org <http://example.org>
>     Slug: pictures
>     Content-Type: text/turtle
>     Link: <http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp#BasicContainer>; rel="type"
> 
> 
>     Please let me know if you think these are reasonable changes. I suppose
>     I can take an ACTION and submit the changes myself, since I'm proposing
>     them.
> 
> 
>     Best,
>     Andrei Sambra
> 
> 
> 
>