Chatlog 2013-01-11

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15:54:30 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #egov
15:54:30 <RRSAgent> logging to
15:54:50 <bdhandspicker> rrsagent, bookmark
15:54:50 <RRSAgent> See
15:55:02 <sandro> zakim, this is egov
15:55:02 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM
15:55:09 <sandro> Hi, bdhandspicker
15:55:21 <bdhandspicker> Hi sandro
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15:55:25 <sandro> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:55:25 <sandro> scribe: bdhandspicker
15:55:58 <bdhandspicker> @sandro, can I assume you are doing all setup and all I need to do is take minutes?
15:56:11 <sandro> yep, it's all set
15:56:18 <bdhandspicker> Great.
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15:56:56 <Gwyn_Sutherlin> can we mute mics when not speaking
15:57:47 <Zakim> +??P7
15:58:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p7 is me
15:58:09 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
15:58:10 <Zakim> + +1.847.699.aabb
15:58:23 <sandro> you can mute with the touch-tone code 61# then unmute with 60#
15:58:37 <Zakim> - +1.847.699.aabb
15:58:45 <Zakim> +Sandro
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15:59:15 <sandro> if you recognize your number, please say so here.
15:59:17 <bdhandspicker> zakim, who is here?
15:59:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.413.652.aaaa, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, +1.613.237.aacc, +1.847.699.aadd
15:59:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jeanne_, KevinSimkins, GannonDick, RRSAgent, Zakim, BartvanLeeuwen, Gwyn_Sutherlin, bdhandspicker, tkb, MacTed, Adrian, heath, bhyland, trackbot, sandro
15:59:30 <Gwyn_Sutherlin> i'm IP called I think
15:59:36 <bdhandspicker> Zakim, I am aaaa
15:59:36 <Zakim> +bdhandspicker; got it
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16:00:17 <Zakim> + +1.703.516.aaee
16:00:18 <PhilA2> zakim, code?
16:00:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200, PhilA2
16:00:27 <Zakim> - +1.847.699.aadd
16:00:37 <Zakim> +??P11
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16:00:42 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P11 is me
16:00:44 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
16:01:10 <Zakim> + +1.718.361.aahh
16:01:26 <Zakim> + +1.508.333.aaii
16:01:38 <Zakim> + +1.202.473.aajj
16:01:54 <GannonDick> Zakim, I am aaii
16:01:54 <Zakim> +GannonDick; got it
16:02:04 <tkb> Zakim, I am aajj
16:02:04 <Zakim> +tkb; got it
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16:02:24 <Zakim> + +1.703.281.aall
16:02:42 <Owen> 843 is me
16:02:49 <PhilA2> zakim, aadd is Richard_Campbell
16:02:49 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
16:02:54 <tkb> and I'm Tariq Khokhar, World Bank Open Data Initiatve
16:02:58 <sandro> zakim, aakk is Owen
16:02:58 <Zakim> +Owen; got it
16:03:08 <Zakim> + +1.937.206.aamm
16:03:10 <PhilA2> zakim, aadd is Richard
16:03:10 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
16:03:18 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?
16:03:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see bdhandspicker, [IPcaller], BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, +1.613.237.aacc, +1.703.516.aaee, PhilA2, +1.847.699.aaff, +1.818.434.aagg, +1.718.361.aahh, GannonDick
16:03:22 <Zakim> ... (muted), tkb, Owen, +1.703.281.aall, +1.937.206.aamm
16:03:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see Owen, PhilA2, Jeanne_, KevinSimkins, GannonDick, RRSAgent, Zakim, BartvanLeeuwen, Gwyn_Sutherlin, bdhandspicker, tkb, MacTed, Adrian, heath, bhyland, trackbot, sandro
16:03:30 <Jeanne_> +1.818.434 is Jeanne
16:03:44 <PhilA2> zakim, aaff is KevinSimkins
16:03:44 <Zakim> +KevinSimkins; got it
16:03:46 <Jeanne_> zakin, aajj is Jeanne
16:04:05 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
16:04:29 <Adrian> 613 547 5000 is Adrian (Walker)
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16:05:31 <bdhandspicker> Topic: Announcements, Call for Speakers, Conferences
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16:06:06 <andrewhoppin> we'll be screensharing at: so feel free to join there any time
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16:06:44 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: Meetings restructured this past year, collecting ideas for topics
16:07:00 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: Putting out an open call for speakers for egov
16:07:22 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: January 21 Hong Kong time next meeting
16:07:54 <Zakim> + +1.202.319.aaoo
16:07:59 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: Expand our series on open data in the next few meetings then look at additional topics
16:08:23 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: Daniel Bennet leading the group on Social Networking
16:08:31 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: Need a leader for Open Data group
16:08:33 <DanielBennett> aaoo is Daniel Bennett
16:09:06 <bdhandspicker> Jeanne: WWW Conference 2013 Brazil looking for speakers
16:09:12 <PhilA2> zakim, aaoo id DanielBennett
16:09:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaoo id DanielBennett', PhilA2
16:09:19 <PhilA2> zakim, aaoo is DanielBennett
16:09:19 <Zakim> +DanielBennett; got it
16:09:42 <bdhandspicker> Topic: Open Source Platforms Options for Opend Data Publishing (Andrew Hoppin)
16:09:43 <DanielBennett> my id got in the way of my is(being)
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16:09:50 <PhilA2> Topic: Andrew Hoppin
16:09:58 <Jeanne_> Andrew Hoppins' screenshare
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16:10:38 <Adrian> Second talk slides at
16:10:39 <DanielBennett> fan of
16:10:50 <Jeanne_> Andrew's slides are at
16:11:05 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Background - small team in NYS working on Open Source platforms
16:11:55 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: developing software open data for local and state governments
16:12:22 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: SAAS and Hosted Solutions delivered by Socrata(?)
16:14:05 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: CECANN? and Open Data Philly are existing platforms available for local governments
16:14:55 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: New platforms options DKAN, Open Government Platform (OGPL) best of Drupal, best of CKAN
16:15:18 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Help to Publish, customize, store and manage data
16:15:41 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Data users to explore, collaborate, use, and extend data & systems
16:16:25 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Open source matters - no lockin, security transparency, open formats and standards, innovation, hosting options, cost
16:16:34 <Jeanne_> andrewhoppin: The CKAN open source is available via
16:17:40 <bdhandspicker> s/CECANN?/CKAN/
16:18:36 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: 2012 big year for CKAN - significant use growth
16:19:18 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: to be CKAN +Drupal
16:20:27 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Why Drupal - open source, already used widely, hosting and consulting support, large skilled user community
16:21:10 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: New DKAN is Drupal-native CKAN
16:21:43 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: DKAN - replicate CKAN in Drupal without Python dependence
16:22:54 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: DKAN benefits - extensible, rapid new development, mature platform, broad support, cloud and local hosting options, integrates DMS & CMS
16:23:55 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: Data isn't static but both real-time changing and augmentable
16:24:38 <bdhandspicker> andrewhoppin: participants (Senators), events, are all non-static data
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16:25:44 <bdhandspicker> alexbyrnes: Alex Byrnes - lots of Open Source development experiences...
16:26:59 <bdhandspicker> alexbyrnes: CKAN widely used as a CMS that understands meta-data
16:28:10 <bdhandspicker> alexbyrnes: CKAN plug-in features and federation options
16:29:05 <Zakim> + +1.312.454.aapp
16:29:17 <bdhandspicker> alexbyrnes: CKAN use case is Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning (CMAP) Data Hub - central agency with constituent agencies
16:29:50 <bdhandspicker> alexbyrnes: CKAN foundation standard for other system