eGovernment Interest Group

Minutes of 20 September 2011

Present
Anne Washington, Bernadette Hyland, Brand Niemann, Daniel Bennett, Ed Summers, Gannon Dick, Hadley Beeman, Jeanne Holm, John Erickson, Rachel Flagg, Dave McAllister
Guests
Owen Amber (StratML), James Forrester (UK Cabinet Office), Brian Handspicker, Tina Gheen (US NSF)
Chair
Jeanne Holm
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
08:50:00 <Dave_McAllister> sitting in a separate meeting in EC today.  Will have to listen in with few comments

Dave McAllister: sitting in a separate meeting in EC today. Will have to listen in with few comments

<zakim> Guest: Owen Amber, StratML
<zakim> Guest: James (jdforrester) Forrester, UK Cabinet Office
<zakim> Guest: Brian (bdhandspicker) Handspicker
<zakim> Guest: Tina Gheen, US NSF
<zakim> present: Anne_Washington, Bernadette_Hyland, Brand_Niemann, Daniel_Bennett, Ed_Summers, Gannon_Dick, Hadley_Beeman, Jeanne_Holm, John_Erickson, Rachel_Flagg, Dave_McAllister
<zakim> chair: Jeanne_Holm
09:01:00 <olyerickson> doesn't look like zakim is connected to audio

(No events recorded for 11 minutes)

John Erickson: doesn't look like zakim is connected to audio

09:01:00 <olyerickson> hmmm, maybe it is...

John Erickson: hmmm, maybe it is...

09:02:00 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is on the phone

James Forrester: zakim, who is on the phone

09:03:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', jdforrester

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', jdforrester

09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is on the call

James Forrester: zakim, who is on the call

09:03:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', jdforrester

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the call', jdforrester

09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here

James Forrester: zakim, who is here

09:03:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, you need to end that query with '?'

Zakim IRC Bot: jdforrester, you need to end that query with '?'

09:03:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here?

James Forrester: zakim, who is here?

09:03:00 <Zakim> sorry, jdforrester, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jdforrester, I don't know what conference this is

09:04:00 <jdforrester> zakim, this is egov

James Forrester: zakim, this is egov

09:04:00 <Zakim> ok, jdforrester; that matches T&S_EGOV()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, jdforrester; that matches T&S_EGOV()9:00AM

09:04:00 <olyerickson> zakim, who is here?

John Erickson: zakim, who is here?

09:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, ??P2, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, ??P2, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8

09:05:00 <Zakim> + +44.786.783.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.786.783.aaff

09:05:00 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11

09:05:00 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P2 is me

John Erickson: zakim, ??P2 is me

09:05:00 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

09:05:00 <gdick> gdick is aabb

Gannon Dick: gdick is aabb

09:05:00 <Daniel> Hi Rachel

Daniel Bennett: Hi Rachel

09:05:00 <jdforrester> zakim, listen

James Forrester: zakim, listen

09:05:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'listen', jdforrester

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'listen', jdforrester

09:05:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is talking?

James Forrester: zakim, who is talking?

09:05:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (52%), +1.509.464.aacc (4%), +1.703.672.aadd (30%), +44.786.783.aaff (52%)

Zakim IRC Bot: jdforrester, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (52%), +1.509.464.aacc (4%), +1.703.672.aadd (30%), +44.786.783.aaff (52%)

09:06:00 <jdforrester> Hi ed.

James Forrester: Hi ed.

09:06:00 <Daniel> someone should give a reminder on how to scribe

Daniel Bennett: someone should give a reminder on how to scribe

09:06:00 <edsu> hi :)

Ed Summers: hi :)

09:06:00 <Dave_McAllister> good day eveyone

Dave McAllister: good day eveyone

09:07:00 <Daniel> hi ed

Daniel Bennett: hi ed

09:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.571.480.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.571.480.aagg

09:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.301.384.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.384.aahh

09:08:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman

09:08:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here?

James Forrester: zakim, who is here?

09:08:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, olyerickson, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, olyerickson, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, davidwood, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11,

09:08:00 <Zakim> ... +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman

09:08:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, trackbot, marek

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar, trackbot, marek

09:08:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.240.515.aaaa

09:08:00 <bhyland> davdwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: davdwood is me

09:09:00 <bhyland> davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: davidwood is me

09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.240.515.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.240.515.aaii

09:09:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.240.515.aaii

09:09:00 <jdforrester> You need to start with "zakim,"

James Forrester: You need to start with "zakim,"

09:09:00 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, davidwood is me

09:09:00 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it

09:09:00 <jdforrester> zakim, aaff is Nig Greenaway

James Forrester: zakim, aaff is Nig Greenaway

09:09:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaff is Nig Greenaway', jdforrester

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aaff is Nig Greenaway', jdforrester

09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.413.652.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.413.652.aajj

09:09:00 <Zakim> + +1.240.515.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.240.515.aakk

09:10:00 <Daniel> wow. this is a pretty big crowd

Daniel Bennett: wow. this is a pretty big crowd

09:10:00 <gdick> aabb is gdick

Gannon Dick: aabb is gdick

09:11:00 <gdick> zakim, aabb is gdick

Gannon Dick: zakim, aabb is gdick

09:11:00 <Zakim> +gdick; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gdick; got it

09:14:00 <bhyland> Topic: Overview by Jeanne

1. Overview by Jeanne

09:15:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Overview of priorities discussed on the first meeting (Aug 2011).  Summary:

Jeanne Holm: Overview of priorities discussed on the first meeting (Aug 2011). Summary: [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Use cases & best practices

Bernadette Hyland: * Use cases & best practices

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Getting information out to citizens

Bernadette Hyland: * Getting information out to citizens

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Intra-government dissemination

Bernadette Hyland: * Intra-government dissemination

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Transparency

Bernadette Hyland: * Transparency

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Strategy

Bernadette Hyland: * Strategy

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Discussion around Open Data (being addressed in the Gov't Linked Data Working Group)

Bernadette Hyland: * Discussion around Open Data (being addressed in the Gov't Linked Data Working Group)

09:15:00 <bhyland> * Accessibility

Bernadette Hyland: * Accessibility

09:15:00 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

09:15:00 <Zakim> - +1.703.672.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.672.aadd

09:16:00 <bhyland> Brand: Would like to talk to apps for the environment

Brand Niemann: Would like to talk to apps for the environment [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:16:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -hadleybeeman

09:16:00 <Daniel> q+ Daniel Bennett

Daniel Bennett: q+ Daniel Bennett

09:16:00 <jdforrester> zakim, q?

James Forrester: zakim, q?

09:16:00 <Zakim> I see bhyland, Daniel, Bennett on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see bhyland, Daniel, Bennett on the speaker queue

09:17:00 <Rachel> + Rachel

Rachel Flagg: + Rachel

09:17:00 <Daniel> also, this is a much larger group. we never needed it previously

Daniel Bennett: also, this is a much larger group. we never needed it previously

09:18:00 <Zakim> + +1.703.672.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.672.aall

09:18:00 <olyerickson> + @bhyland; IGs are not WGs ;)

John Erickson: + @bhyland; IGs are not WGs ;)

09:19:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman

09:19:00 <bhyland> q-

Bernadette Hyland: q-

09:19:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

09:20:00 <bhyland> bhyland: Typically a W3C IG will discuss topics in support of an existing working group who has the responsibility of writing and getting approval for recommendations.

Bernadette Hyland: Typically a W3C IG will discuss topics in support of an existing working group who has the responsibility of writing and getting approval for recommendations. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:21:00 <edsu> bhyland: there's also space for some notes i imagine

Bernadette Hyland: there's also space for some notes i imagine [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

09:21:00 <bhyland> Good for everyone to review the eGov IG, see http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/charter-2011

Bernadette Hyland: Good for everyone to review the eGov IG, see http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/charter-2011

09:22:00 <bhyland> Rachel: The IG could help with bridging the gap between people and technology, make it relevant to people, explaining it in plain language.

Rachel Flagg: The IG could help with bridging the gap between people and technology, make it relevant to people, explaining it in plain language. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:22:00 <bhyland> Rachel: Would really like to continue that.

Rachel Flagg: Would really like to continue that. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:22:00 <Daniel> +1 Rachel - the Editorial Board should be prominent

Daniel Bennett: +1 Rachel - the Editorial Board should be prominent

09:22:00 <bhyland> +1 Rachel.

Bernadette Hyland: +1 Rachel.

09:23:00 <olyerickson> I don't think it's "OGLD" but "GLD..."

John Erickson: I don't think it's "OGLD" but "GLD..."

09:23:00 <Daniel> too bad it isnt gov. open. linked data .... GOLD

Daniel Bennett: too bad it isnt gov. open. linked data .... GOLD

09:23:00 <bhyland> Topic: Gov't Linked Data Working Group.

2. Gov't Linked Data Working Group.

09:23:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter

09:24:00 <annew> +1 Daniel.. I was thinking the same thing...

Anne Washington: +1 Daniel.. I was thinking the same thing...

09:24:00 <Daniel> hi anne

Daniel Bennett: hi anne

09:24:00 <annew> hey guys!

Anne Washington: hey guys!

09:27:00 <Zakim> +TinaGheen

Zakim IRC Bot: +TinaGheen

09:27:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: W3C GLD WG is about applying W3C recommendations and best practices to publishing Open Govt Linked Data

Bernadette Hyland: W3C GLD WG is about applying W3C recommendations and best practices to publishing Open Govt Linked Data [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

09:27:00 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

09:27:00 <Zakim> -??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0

09:27:00 <Daniel> nice. feedback heaven

Daniel Bennett: nice. feedback heaven

09:28:00 <HadleyBeeman> bhyland: we're looking specifically at 5-star linked data, not just CSV or Excel spreadsheets

Bernadette Hyland: we're looking specifically at 5-star linked data, not just CSV or Excel spreadsheets [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

09:28:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: focus is on Open, standards, TBL's "5-star" ratings

Bernadette Hyland: focus is on Open, standards, TBL's "5-star" ratings [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

09:28:00 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

09:28:00 <Zakim> -Jeanne

Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeanne

09:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.413.652.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.413.652.aajj

09:31:00 <Zakim> + +1.413.652.aamm

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.413.652.aamm

09:31:00 <olyerickson> olyerickson: It's "Tetherless World Constellation" (RPI) ;)

John Erickson: It's "Tetherless World Constellation" (RPI) ;) [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

09:33:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: One deliverable is GLD Cookbook to help stakeholders "get from Point A to Point B"

Bernadette Hyland: One deliverable is GLD Cookbook to help stakeholders "get from Point A to Point B" [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

09:35:00 <edsu> q+

Ed Summers: q+

09:35:00 <olyerickson> I have nothing to add; very comprehensive, bhyland

John Erickson: I have nothing to add; very comprehensive, bhyland

09:35:00 <Daniel> q-

Daniel Bennett: q-

09:35:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Requested to have a liaison to the GLD WG.

Jeanne Holm: Requested to have a liaison to the GLD WG. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:36:00 <olyerickson> I volunteered last meetng

John Erickson: I volunteered last meetng

09:36:00 <Daniel> q- Bennett

Daniel Bennett: q- Bennett

09:36:00 <HadleyBeeman> I'm happy to help too

Hadley Beeman: I'm happy to help too

09:36:00 <Daniel> thanks for the great breakdown of the GLD Charter

Daniel Bennett: thanks for the great breakdown of the GLD Charter

09:37:00 <bhyland> John Erickson volunteered to be the liaison between the eGov IG and GLD WG.  Thanks John.

Bernadette Hyland: John Erickson volunteered to be the liaison between the eGov IG and GLD WG. Thanks John.

09:38:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

09:38:00 <Zakim> - +1.240.515.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.240.515.aakk

09:39:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: it *did* sound like you said that that GLD is open to non-members...

Bernadette Hyland: it *did* sound like you said that that GLD is open to non-members... [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

09:40:00 <bhyland> High level definition of Linked Data per Tim Berners-Lee, http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html

Bernadette Hyland: High level definition of Linked Data per Tim Berners-Lee, http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html

09:40:00 <edsu> olyerickson: thanks, i'm glad i wasn't the only one :)

John Erickson: thanks, i'm glad i wasn't the only one :) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

09:41:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

09:41:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, +1.509.464.aacc, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, +1.703.672.aall, hadleybeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, +1.509.464.aacc, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, ??P8, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, +1.703.672.aall, hadleybeeman,

09:41:00 <Zakim> ... TinaGheen, ??P0, +1.413.652.aamm

Zakim IRC Bot: ... TinaGheen, ??P0, +1.413.652.aamm

09:42:00 <jdforrester> bhyland, But doesn't help for SIP. :-)

James Forrester: bhyland, But doesn't help for SIP. :-)

09:42:00 <Rachel> aacc is Rachel

Rachel Flagg: aacc is Rachel

09:42:00 <Rachel> aacc is me

Rachel Flagg: aacc is me

09:42:00 <jdforrester> Zakim, aacc is Rachel

James Forrester: Zakim, aacc is Rachel

09:42:00 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it

09:42:00 <Owen> 301-384 is me

Owen Amber: 301-384 is me

09:42:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is talking?

James Forrester: zakim, who is talking?

09:43:00 <Rachel> thanks JDForrester! :)

Rachel Flagg: thanks JDForrester! :)

09:43:00 <Zakim> jdforrester, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (7%), ??P8 (92%)

Zakim IRC Bot: jdforrester, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (7%), ??P8 (92%)

09:43:00 <jdforrester> Zakim, ??P8 is me

James Forrester: Zakim, ??P8 is me

09:43:00 <Zakim> +jdforrester; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jdforrester; got it

09:43:00 <edsu> jdforrester: thanks for asking that, that was implicit in my questions :)

James Forrester: thanks for asking that, that was implicit in my questions :) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

09:43:00 <jdforrester> edsu, Sure. :-)

James Forrester: edsu, Sure. :-)

09:44:00 <Daniel> aaee is Daniel Bennett

Daniel Bennett: aaee is Daniel Bennett

09:44:00 <Zakim> - +1.703.672.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.672.aall

09:44:00 <jdforrester> zakim, who is here?

James Forrester: zakim, who is here?

09:44:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0,

09:44:00 <bdhandspicker> Zakim, aamm is bdhandspicker

Brian Handspicker: Zakim, aamm is bdhandspicker

09:44:00 <Zakim> ... +1.413.652.aamm

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.413.652.aamm

09:44:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Nig, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Nig, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson, jdforrester, Ansgar,

09:44:00 <Zakim> ... trackbot, marek

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, marek

09:44:00 <Zakim> +bdhandspicker; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bdhandspicker; got it

09:46:00 <bhyland> Topic: Breadth of the eGov IG

3. Breadth of the eGov IG

09:46:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Would like to keep it broad, helping government to create transparency, help with interoperability, etc.

Jeanne Holm: Would like to keep it broad, helping government to create transparency, help with interoperability, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:47:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Focus on a couple of things that we can accomplish i the next few months.

Jeanne Holm: Focus on a couple of things that we can accomplish i the next few months. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:48:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Highlighted Community Directory

Jeanne Holm: Highlighted Community Directory [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:48:00 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

09:49:00 <bhyland> Per the eGov IG charter, "In order to help members of this diverse community find and collaborate with each other, the group may lead or assist in the construction and maintenance of a community directory.

Bernadette Hyland: Per the eGov IG charter, "In order to help members of this diverse community find and collaborate with each other, the group may lead or assist in the construction and maintenance of a community directory.

09:49:00 <bhyland> The http://www.w3.org/2011/gld has a similar deliverable, for its community, which overlaps this community. Ideally, the two projects can be coordinated and even interoperate, with the data being maintained separately but browsable together.

Bernadette Hyland: The http://www.w3.org/2011/gld has a similar deliverable, for its community, which overlaps this community. Ideally, the two projects can be coordinated and even interoperate, with the data being maintained separately but browsable together.

09:50:00 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

09:50:00 <Owen> Community Directory objective available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/eGovIG2011-2013wStyle.xml#_266900e6-cdbb-11e0-95aa-922d7a64ea2a

Owen Amber: Community Directory objective available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/eGovIG2011-2013wStyle.xml#_266900e6-cdbb-11e0-95aa-922d7a64ea2a

09:50:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Published activities of people involved in gov't projects.  Would include subject matter experts.

Jeanne Holm: Published activities of people involved in gov't projects. Would include subject matter experts. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:52:00 <gdick> +q

Gannon Dick: +q

09:52:00 <Daniel> I think that we can help bring about a lot of goals including accessibility, Linkish Data, metadata, authoritative data, human readability of data, etc, by looking at HTML5 publishing by govt. For example, lots of efforts are being wasted on apps and APIs instead of simple publishing techniques.

Daniel Bennett: I think that we can help bring about a lot of goals including accessibility, Linkish Data, metadata, authoritative data, human readability of data, etc, by looking at HTML5 publishing by govt. For example, lots of efforts are being wasted on apps and APIs instead of simple publishing techniques.

09:53:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

09:53:00 <edsu> q+

Ed Summers: q+

09:54:00 <Owen> When time permits I will convert the GLD WG's charter -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter -- to StratML format

Owen Amber: When time permits I will convert the GLD WG's charter -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter -- to StratML format

09:54:00 <Daniel> thanks HB

Daniel Bennett: thanks HB

09:54:00 <bhyland> Here are some questions the GLD WG put together around deployments, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire

Bernadette Hyland: Here are some questions the GLD WG put together around deployments, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire

09:55:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

09:57:00 <olyerickson> +1 that GLD Community Directory should consider "application" resources (mashup developers/consultants) as well as conversion/publication resources

John Erickson: +1 that GLD Community Directory should consider "application" resources (mashup developers/consultants) as well as conversion/publication resources

09:57:00 <olyerickson> GLD stakeholders need to understand how to *apply* GLD as well as how to create it...

John Erickson: GLD stakeholders need to understand how to *apply* GLD as well as how to create it...

09:57:00 <bhyland> Gannon: Recommended New Zealand format for deployments.

Gannon Dick: Recommended New Zealand format for deployments. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:58:00 <gdick> http://wiki.open.org.nz/Open_Data_Mini_Case_Studies

Gannon Dick: http://wiki.open.org.nz/Open_Data_Mini_Case_Studies

09:59:00 <bhyland> Gannon: That is a great reference, thanks.

Gannon Dick: That is a great reference, thanks. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

09:59:00 <edsu> gdick: nice :)

Gannon Dick: nice :) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ]

09:59:00 <gdick> q-

Gannon Dick: q-

09:59:00 <bhyland> FWIW, we are producing a Linked Data application based on FLOSS, that captures deployments, company & vendor info.

Bernadette Hyland: FWIW, we are producing a Linked Data application based on FLOSS, that captures deployments, company & vendor info.

09:59:00 <olyerickson> Could HadleyBeeman confirm that she is referring to the UK Patent Office?

John Erickson: Could HadleyBeeman confirm that she is referring to the UK Patent Office?

10:00:00 <HadleyBeeman> Olyerickson- no, I was referring to a Cabinet Office initiative to deal with identity authentication online

Hadley Beeman: Olyerickson- no, I was referring to a Cabinet Office initiative to deal with identity authentication online

10:01:00 <olyerickson> @HadleyBeeman thanks (I misheard)!

John Erickson: @HadleyBeeman thanks (I misheard)!

10:01:00 <HadleyBeeman> I've been wanting to connect them with the W3C's group working with identity in the browser… who are thinking about similar issues.

Hadley Beeman: I've been wanting to connect them with the W3C's group working with identity in the browser… who are thinking about similar issues.

10:01:00 <HadleyBeeman> @olyerickson No problem :)

Hadley Beeman: @olyerickson No problem :)

10:02:00 <bhyland> Open Government Data Camp, in Warsaw Poland, 20-21 October 2011, see http://ogdcamp.org/

Bernadette Hyland: Open Government Data Camp, in Warsaw Poland, 20-21 October 2011, see http://ogdcamp.org/

10:02:00 <Daniel> Interesting. I am working with patient identity with Kantara Initiative.

Daniel Bennett: Interesting. I am working with patient identity with Kantara Initiative.

10:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.270.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.270.aann

10:02:00 <jdforrester> olyerickson, It's called the ID Assurance programme - see http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2011/08/10/a-question-of-trust/

James Forrester: olyerickson, It's called the ID Assurance programme - see http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2011/08/10/a-question-of-trust/

10:02:00 <bhyland> OGDC is organized by the Open Knowledge Foundation.

Bernadette Hyland: OGDC is organized by the Open Knowledge Foundation.

10:02:00 <HadleyBeeman> Daniel - can we talk offline about that? Or can you post a link? I'm intrigued

Hadley Beeman: Daniel - can we talk offline about that? Or can you post a link? I'm intrigued

10:02:00 <Daniel> Looking more at OpenID, OpenID Connect, SAML

Daniel Bennett: Looking more at OpenID, OpenID Connect, SAML

10:02:00 <jdforrester> olyerickson, disclaimer - colleagues of mine. :-)

James Forrester: olyerickson, disclaimer - colleagues of mine. :-)

10:03:00 <olyerickson> @jdforrester Thanks!

John Erickson: @jdforrester Thanks!

10:03:00 <Daniel> daniel@citizencontact.com

Daniel Bennett: daniel@citizencontact.com

10:03:00 <HadleyBeeman> @jdforrester Thanks — I thought that might be at your fingertips faster than mine :)

Hadley Beeman: @jdforrester Thanks — I thought that might be at your fingertips faster than mine :)

10:03:00 <olyerickson> +1 to US and EU f2f opportunities...

John Erickson: +1 to US and EU f2f opportunities...

10:03:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to TPAC and (hopefully) to Open Gov Data Camp

Hadley Beeman: +1 to TPAC and (hopefully) to Open Gov Data Camp

10:04:00 <bdhandspicker> Interesting, we are also working on "person identity" across multiple New York state agencies

Brian Handspicker: Interesting, we are also working on "person identity" across multiple New York state agencies

10:04:00 <jdforrester> +1 to TPAC (though I might not be able to travel).

James Forrester: +1 to TPAC (though I might not be able to travel).

10:04:00 <Daniel> http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/healthidassurance/Home

Daniel Bennett: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/healthidassurance/Home

10:04:00 <HadleyBeeman> @bhandspicker @daniel @jdforrester Thanks guys— you're totally validating me bringing up the identity issue as an opportunity for collaboration. :)

Hadley Beeman: @bhandspicker @daniel @jdforrester Thanks guys— you're totally validating me bringing up the identity issue as an opportunity for collaboration. :)

10:06:00 <bhyland> Topic: eGov IG deliverables - Providing exemplars for licensing government content.

4. eGov IG deliverables - Providing exemplars for licensing government content.

10:07:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Will prepare some examples of where we might be headed.

Jeanne Holm: Will prepare some examples of where we might be headed. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:08:00 <bhyland> Hadley: At Linked Government (UK), providing examples of Open Data providing concrete examples of cost savings, ROIs.  Looking to produce "common collateral" to justify projects.

Hadley Beeman: At Linked Government (UK), providing examples of Open Data providing concrete examples of cost savings, ROIs. Looking to produce "common collateral" to justify projects. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:09:00 <HadleyBeeman> Economic case studies for open data (please feel free to add to it): http://wiki.linkedgov.org/index.php/The_economic_impact_of_open_data

Hadley Beeman: Economic case studies for open data (please feel free to add to it): http://wiki.linkedgov.org/index.php/The_economic_impact_of_open_data

10:09:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: Meeting with local and state government officials and they all need case studies to justify expenditure.

Jeanne Holm: Meeting with local and state government officials and they all need case studies to justify expenditure. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:10:00 <bhyland> @Hadley - thanks, good link.

Bernadette Hyland: @Hadley - thanks, good link.

10:10:00 <olyerickson> Getting into the "business case"/"ROI" area seems out of the traditional W3C remit

John Erickson: Getting into the "business case"/"ROI" area seems out of the traditional W3C remit

10:10:00 <annew> +1 Hadley important idea

Anne Washington: +1 Hadley important idea

10:11:00 <HadleyBeeman> @olyerickson Full business case may not be, but common standards (developed from common use cases… which isn't far from "evidence") are rather familiar territory for the W3C. :)

Hadley Beeman: @olyerickson Full business case may not be, but common standards (developed from common use cases… which isn't far from "evidence") are rather familiar territory for the W3C. :)

10:11:00 <bhyland> @olyerickson - I think that the W3C is becoming more commercially sensitive to the extent publishing success stories & ROIs to get increased uptake.

Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson - I think that the W3C is becoming more commercially sensitive to the extent publishing success stories & ROIs to get increased uptake.

10:11:00 <olyerickson> @HadleyBeeman agreed...and really it isn't too far from what TBL is doing as we speak ;)

John Erickson: @HadleyBeeman agreed...and really it isn't too far from what TBL is doing as we speak ;)

10:12:00 <gdick> +1

Gannon Dick: +1

10:12:00 <edsu> q+

Ed Summers: q+

10:12:00 <gdick> brand

Gannon Dick: brand

10:12:00 <HadleyBeeman> ack hadleybeeman

Hadley Beeman: ack hadleybeeman

10:13:00 <bhyland> Brand: The importance data results should not be unemphasized.  We have to take an additional step to explain the value added and the value of Open Data.

Brand Niemann: The importance data results should not be unemphasized. We have to take an additional step to explain the value added and the value of Open Data. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:15:00 <bhyland> Rachel: Efforts to work with OMB and WH to improve delivery of gov't info and services online.  Goes through Sept 30th. Looking for ways to improve government web sites.  Will review web policies, update, to deliver services that people want from the gov't.

Rachel Flagg: Efforts to work with OMB and WH to improve delivery of gov't info and services online. Goes through Sept 30th. Looking for ways to improve government web sites. Will review web policies, update, to deliver services that people want from the gov't. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:15:00 <Owen> Value of open data should be explicitly linked to .gov objectives, which should themselves be documented in open standard format

Owen Amber: Value of open data should be explicitly linked to .gov objectives, which should themselves be documented in open standard format

10:15:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:15:00 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

10:17:00 <olyerickson> "A National Dialog on Improving Federal Websites" http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/

John Erickson: "A National Dialog on Improving Federal Websites" http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/

10:17:00 <bhyland> EdSummers: It is important to remember this is an international eGov IG, don't focus on US.

Ed Summers: It is important to remember this is an international eGov IG, don't focus on US. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:17:00 <olyerickson> See also: ".gov Reform Effort: Improving Federal Websites" http://www.usa.gov/WebReform.shtml

John Erickson: See also: ".gov Reform Effort: Improving Federal Websites" http://www.usa.gov/WebReform.shtml

10:18:00 <Rachel> National Dialogue to Improve Govt Websites http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/

Rachel Flagg: National Dialogue to Improve Govt Websites http://web-reform-dialogue.ideascale.com/

10:18:00 <bhyland> @Jeanne - can you put in a link to the LinkedIn group you referenced.  Thanks.

Bernadette Hyland: @Jeanne - can you put in a link to the LinkedIn group you referenced. Thanks.

10:19:00 <bhyland>  Announcement: Open Government Partnership being held in NYC today ...

Bernadette Hyland: Announcement: Open Government Partnership being held in NYC today ...

10:19:00 <Daniel> what next steps for this group? action items?

Daniel Bennett: what next steps for this group? action items?

10:20:00 <Daniel> we are 10 mins left

Daniel Bennett: we are 10 mins left

10:20:00 <olyerickson> RE Open Government Partnership, see http://www.opengovpartnership.org/

John Erickson: RE Open Government Partnership, see http://www.opengovpartnership.org/

10:20:00 <Daniel> have

Daniel Bennett: have

10:21:00 <HadleyBeeman> eGovernment interest group on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648

Hadley Beeman: eGovernment interest group on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648

10:23:00 <bhyland> Brand's submission: http://appsfortheenvironment.challenge.gov/submissions/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&terms=%22Build+EPA+apps+in+the+cloud%22

Bernadette Hyland: Brand's submission: http://appsfortheenvironment.challenge.gov/submissions/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&terms=%22Build+EPA+apps+in+the+cloud%22

10:24:00 <olyerickson> RE Brand's "Build EPA Apps in the Cloud" stuff see: http://bit.ly/pzAzHn

John Erickson: RE Brand's "Build EPA Apps in the Cloud" stuff see: http://bit.ly/pzAzHn

10:24:00 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

10:25:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's talking?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who's talking?

10:25:00 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (5%), bhyland (70%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (5%), bhyland (70%)

10:25:00 <annew> 5 minutes to go

Anne Washington: 5 minutes to go

10:25:00 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q-

10:26:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking?

10:26:00 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (92%), olyerickson (60%), ??P3 (4%), ??P6 (9%)

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (92%), olyerickson (60%), ??P3 (4%), ??P6 (9%)

10:26:00 <Daniel> fyi- cool online book talking about new features of HTML5 like offline ability? http://www.20thingsilearned.com/en-US

Daniel Bennett: fyi- cool online book talking about new features of HTML5 like offline ability? http://www.20thingsilearned.com/en-US

10:26:00 <Daniel> please mute them

Daniel Bennett: please mute them

10:26:00 <olyerickson> I'd be happy to speak to issues w.r.t. organizing and running a topic-focuses Hackathon

John Erickson: I'd be happy to speak to issues w.r.t. organizing and running a topic-focuses Hackathon

10:27:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking?

10:27:00 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P6 (70%)

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P6 (70%)

10:28:00 <bhyland> Jeanne - recap on today's call, and next steps for getting together at the TPAC and/or Open Gov't Data Conference.

Bernadette Hyland: Jeanne - recap on today's call, and next steps for getting together at the TPAC and/or Open Gov't Data Conference.

10:28:00 <bhyland> Hadley - ACTION: Jeanne to send out a Doodle poll re: TPAC attendance.

Bernadette Hyland: Hadley - ACTION: Jeanne to send out a Doodle poll re: TPAC attendance.

10:29:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call?

10:29:00 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

10:30:00 <bhyland> zakim, who is here?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is here?

10:30:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see olyerickson, gdick, Rachel, bhyland, +1.202.684.aaee, jdforrester, +44.786.783.aaff, ??P11, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh, hadleybeeman, TinaGheen, ??P0,

10:30:00 <Zakim> ... bdhandspicker, ??P3, ??P6, +1.202.270.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: ... bdhandspicker, ??P3, ??P6, +1.202.270.aann

10:30:00 <olyerickson> @bhyland thanks for attending and helping to run meeting ;)

John Erickson: @bhyland thanks for attending and helping to run meeting ;)

10:30:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see Nig, MacTed, tlr, HadleyBeeman, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Nig, MacTed, tlr, HadleyBeeman, Owen, bdhandspicker, Rachel, bhyland, edsu, annew, chris_biow, Zakim, Daniel, Jeanne_, gdick, Dave_McAllister, olyerickson,

10:30:00 <Zakim> ... jdforrester, trackbot, marek

Zakim IRC Bot: ... jdforrester, trackbot, marek

10:30:00 <jdforrester> Thank you everyone.

James Forrester: Thank you everyone.

10:30:00 <bhyland> thanks Jeanne & everyone.

Bernadette Hyland: thanks Jeanne & everyone.

10:30:00 <Zakim> -TinaGheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -TinaGheen

10:30:00 <Daniel> thanks

Daniel Bennett: thanks

10:30:00 <olyerickson> thanks!

John Erickson: thanks!

10:30:00 <Dave_McAllister> thanks all

Dave McAllister: thanks all

10:30:00 <Zakim> - +44.786.783.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.786.783.aaff

10:30:00 <annew> thanks jeanne.

Anne Washington: thanks jeanne.

10:30:00 <Zakim> -jdforrester

Zakim IRC Bot: -jdforrester

10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P11

10:30:00 <annew> bye

Anne Washington: bye

10:30:00 <bdhandspicker> Thanks

Brian Handspicker: Thanks

10:30:00 <Zakim> -Rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel

10:30:00 <Zakim> -gdick

Zakim IRC Bot: -gdick

10:30:00 <bhyland> rrsagent, generate minutes

Bernadette Hyland: rrsagent, generate minutes

10:30:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -hadleybeeman

10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P6

10:30:00 <gdick> bye

Gannon Dick: bye

10:30:00 <Dave_McAllister> bye from paris

Dave McAllister: bye from paris

10:30:00 <Zakim> -??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P3

10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.571.480.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.571.480.aagg

10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.270.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.270.aann

10:30:00 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

10:30:00 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland

10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.301.384.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.301.384.aahh

10:30:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.684.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.684.aaee

10:31:00 <Zakim> -??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0

10:31:00 <Zakim> -bdhandspicker

Zakim IRC Bot: -bdhandspicker

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Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

10:31:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, +1.202.684.aaee, +44.786.783.aaff, olyerickson, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.240.515.aaaa, Jeanne, +1.508.333.aabb, +1.509.464.aacc, +1.703.672.aadd, +1.202.684.aaee, +44.786.783.aaff, olyerickson, +1.571.480.aagg, +1.301.384.aahh,

10:31:00 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, +1.240.515.aaii, bhyland, +1.413.652.aajj, +1.240.515.aakk, gdick, +1.703.672.aall, TinaGheen, +1.413.652.aamm, Rachel, jdforrester, bdhandspicker,

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, +1.240.515.aaii, bhyland, +1.413.652.aajj, +1.240.515.aakk, gdick, +1.703.672.aall, TinaGheen, +1.413.652.aamm, Rachel, jdforrester, bdhandspicker,

10:31:00 <Zakim> ... +1.202.270.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.202.270.aann

10:31:00 <Rachel> -Rachel

Rachel Flagg: -Rachel

10:31:00 <bhyland> Jeanne: doesn't look like the RRSAgent and trackbot was invited so we cannot automatically create minutes :-(

Jeanne Holm: doesn't look like the RRSAgent and trackbot was invited so we cannot automatically create minutes :-( [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:31:00 <bhyland> We use a little check list in the WG that helps avoid this (we've done it ourselves...)

Bernadette Hyland: We use a little check list in the WG that helps avoid this (we've done it ourselves...)

10:32:00 <bhyland> Everyone has done it in fact.

Bernadette Hyland: Everyone has done it in fact.

10:32:00 <HadleyBeeman> @bhyland I have them archived (on my local machine) if you need a file…

Hadley Beeman: @bhyland I have them archived (on my local machine) if you need a file…

10:32:00 <bhyland> Here is a sample an agenda that you can cut & paste from so you have the checklist:

Bernadette Hyland: Here is a sample an agenda that you can cut & paste from so you have the checklist:

10:33:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.15

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.15

10:33:00 <bhyland> See the checklist in the above agenda.

Bernadette Hyland: See the checklist in the above agenda.

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