Accept this agenda?

-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2012/06/28-agenda

Accepted.

Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

-> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2012/05/31-minutes

Accepted.

Next meeting: telcon, 16 August 2012

After some discussion, see below, the WG decided to take a summer break. Henry gives regrets for 16 August.

Review of open action items

<scribe> No progress. Much wailing and tears reported.

Review of V.next requirements and use cases

Norm: Anyone have any high-level thoughts on how to improve progess?

Murray: We've got a holiday in the US next week, and folks preparing for Balisage in August...summer is slow.

Cornelia: Yes, summer is slow.

Norm: Should we take the month of July off?

Cornelia: I think we should take a month off, because we're going to end up taking some time off anyway.
... I'm going to read the req doc top-to-bottom, are there any other homework assignments we could be doing?

Norm: Well, I've got some big proposals and we should all read the document.

Some discussion of dates; restarting on 2 August bumps us up against Balisage, let's just skip over that too.

Proposal: We'll take July off to recharge our batteries. Next meeting: 16 August.

Accepted.

Norm: Take it away, Murray

Murray: I pulled in a bunch of possible specs and now I think we should eliminate the ones we're really not going to do.
... So, XPointer and XLink can go.
... We can do MathML

Norm: What would a MathML step do?

Murray: Convert MathML to presentation or results.

Alex: Converting MathML into an image for example.

Murray: XForms? No.
... EXI would seem to be relevant. We might want to accept EXI as inputs.

Norm: Yes, I think so.

Murray: So I'm going to leave it in.
... I thought we might have some sort of special HTML processing step.

Norm: I think we might want to leave HTML5 in there, because we're going to talk about HTML5 coming in on steps like p:http-request.

Alex: There's definitely a difference between cleanup and parsing using the HTML5 rules.

Norm: I think HTML5 should stay, I'd e inclined to pull the others but I don't feel strongly about it.

Murray: I agree.
... Now, CSS.

Norm: Seems like an edge case to me.

Murray: Yep.
... Then I put in these common publishing formats. I had a chat about building a DITA step.

Norm: Yeah, certainly for the office formats, I can imagine steps.
... I'm agnostic about leaving them.

Murray: I thought it might be handy to have common interfaces to these document types.
... But we're building XProc so that others can build tools like these, so maybe we should just leave it out until the fullness of time.
... So I think we should take them out.

Norm: Ok.

Murray: Similarly, I think someone could develop a UBL step.

Norm: And we don't have the experience to do it.

Murray: So, out.

Norm: We punted in V1.0 because signatures work over sequences of characters.

Some discussion of digital signatures

Alex: EPUB3 has digital signatures.

Norm: I think we should leave digital signatures in the list, to remind us at least that we might want to reconsider signatures in V.next.

<scribe> ACTION: Alex to produce a use case with digital signatures in an EPU3 document. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

Murray: What about the semantic web? I think we could imagine steps that work with the semantic web.

Alex: We could certainly have a step that extracted RDF from RDFa documents.

Murray: As a core step?

<scribe> ACTION: Alex to produce a use case for semantic web steps. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-xproc-minutes.html#action02]

Murray: SMIL out?

Yes.

Murray: Mail in?

Norm: Yes.

Murray: Non-XML formats.
... CSV seems easy.
... JSON is obvious too, right.
... SGML?

Norm: Goodness, how would you do that?

Alex: We'd have to add that to the places where there are inputs.

Norm: I'd be inclined to limit this list to CSV and JSON.

Murray: WebDAV?
... It's unlikely that you want WebDAV *in* XProc.
... The end of that list is a list of reference processors.

Norm: I think libhtml5 should be added to the list.

Murray: This document has grown, and there's a lot of good stuff, and ultimately we need to produce a R&UC document.
... A lot of what's in the back is useful material.
... But if we're going to get a R&UC document out, we should separate some of it out.
... But maybe we should leave it in until 16 August.

Norm: I'm ok with leaving it in until August.

Murray: I think we should have some OS steps and some of these other steps in F.

Alex: I think there are a lots of levels of sorting here.

Murray: But the OS/directory steps seem so fully specified, that we should just be able to include them.

Some discussion of the steps.

Norm: I think we might just publish them as a note.

<scribe> ACTION: Norm to draft notes for OS and directory steps [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-xproc-minutes.html#action03]

Murray: I think that's the end of my list.

Any other business?

None heard.

Adjourned.