WAI UA Telecon for November 30th, 2000 
 
 
	 Chair: Jon Gunderson
		 
 Date: Thursday, 30 November
		Time: 2:00 pm to 4:00 pm Eastern Standard Time, USA
		Call-in: Longfellow Bridge (+1) (617) 252-1038
 
 
	  
	  
	 Announcements 
 
	  
		- Next User Agent face-to-face meeting in Boston on 1-2 March 2001
 
		
	 
 
	 Discussion
 
	  
		- Issues list changes related to additional last call comments
  
		- Issue
		  #392: Checkpoint 1.4: Overly
		  broad
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#392 
		
		- Issue
		  #393: Checkpoint 1.2: Change to P2 for exposing through other programmatic
		  means.
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#393  
		- Issue
		  #394: Checkpoint 2.1: Vague about what cannot be provided through a source view
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#394  
		- Issue
		  #395: Checkpoint 3.8: Make images optional
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#395  
		- Issue
		  #396: New requirement: Allow user to override absolute values
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#396  
		- Issue
		  #397: Checkpoint 4.3 (and other color checkpoints): Need to define "system
		  colors"
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#397  
		- Issue
		  #398: Checkpoint 4.5 (4.6, 4.8, 4.9): Need definition of "not recognized as
		  style"
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#398  
		- Issue
		  #399: Checkpoint 4.7: Implementation experience for this?
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#399  
		- Issue
		  #400: Checkpoint 4.11: Why limited to sources synchronized to play
		  simultanously?
		  
http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#400  
	 
 
 
	 Attendance
 
	 Chair: Jon Gunderson
 
	 Scribe: Kitch Barnicle
 
	 Present: 
Ian Jacobs 
David Poehlman
Harvey
		Bingham
Gregory Rosmaita
Mickey Quenzer
 
	 Regrets:
Eric Hansen
Charles
		McCathieNevile
Jim Allan
 
 
	  
	  
	  
		- Action IJ: Follow up with Greg Lowney on issue 389
  
		- IJ: (Issue 387) Propose new wording for check point 8.4 reflecting
		  discussion on 28 November
  
		- IJ: Ask Jason White for CSS implementation information for
		  emacspeak
  
		- IJ: Publish new implementation report for the meeting
  
		- IJ: Improve wording of note for 4.14 related to CSS reference
  
		- IJ, EH, AG: Propose new definitions forterms in question
		  (equivalence, text element, etc.)
  
		- IJ: Draft new language for 6.2
  
		- IJ: Get wording from Martin for thisrequirement (e.g., "conform",
		  "implement", etc.) for issue 327
  
		- IJ: Talk to the Director about DOM 2 proposal discussed at FTF
		  meeting
  
		-  IJ: Propose new checkpoints to see how it feels to harmonize the
		  requirements related to comments in issue 348.
  
		- IJ: Propose new checkpoints/modifiedcheckpoints for 8.2.
  
		- IJ: Add some more explanation about the difference between 7.3
		  and7.4.
  
		- IJ: Proposed fixed wording for 7.5
  
		- IJ: Add to techniques a link to Adobe's accessible PDF information.
		  
  
		- IJ and AG: Revise the applicability provision and send to WG.
  
		-  IJ: Ask Adobe why this is hard (issue 382)
  
		- JG: Implementation information for guideline 2
  
		- JG: Propose a list of things we areexpecting UAs to recognize in
		  scripts.
  
		- AG: Send a reply to Phill related to issue 362
  
		- GR: Review checkpoints in Guideline 10 for implementation
		  information
  
		- GR: Talk to Håkon about CSS support. 
  
		- MQ: Send more details about control of speech parameters for the
		  techniques document based on OpenBook.
  
		- KB: Submit technique on providing information on current item and
		  number of items in search
  
		- JA: Review checkpoints in Guideline 4 for implementation
		  information
  
		- CMN: Send a proposed definition of equivalent to the group
  
	 
 
	  
	 
		- IJ: 1.4 needs to be re-written in light of changes in checkpoint
		  1.1.
 
		- IJ: Proposed text in 2.1
 
		- IJ: Add a note to 5.8 - content requirements may also apply to user
		  interface
 
		- IJ: Mention that resizing and overiding absolute values is part of
		  some specification in section 1.2
 
		- IJ: Clarify the meaning of system colors
 
		- IJ: 
a) clarify "recognize style" in checkpoints 4.5 
b) need
		  more rational - refer to WCAG - style less important than other content 
c)
		  add note 4.5 - give example of multimedia content that can be recognized as
		  style 
		- WG: look for user agents that implement mouse events like mouse over
		  with the keyboard.
 
		- JG: Ask PF people, especially Rich, about user agents that implement
		  mouse events like mouse over with the keyboard next week at ER-PF FTF.
 
	 
 
	  
	 
		- AG: Send info about portable point of sale to Ian for his reply for
		  issue 377
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0326.html 
		- MQ: Review speech checkpoints for implementation information
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0225.html 
		- HB: Find out how Daisy addresses synthesizer voice characteristics
		  configuration
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0357.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0358.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0359.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0360.html