Silver Subgroup meeting minutes of 12 August 2016

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[09:33] <Lauriat> Present+ Lauriat

[09:34] <SarahHorton> invite RRSAgent,

[09:34] <SarahHorton> invite RRSAgent

[09:35] <SarahHorton> invite RSSAgent

[09:35] <SarahHorton> scribe: SarahHorton

[09:36] <SarahHorton> Agenga: Discuss sub-group objectives for TPAC

[09:36] <SarahHorton> Agenda: Review comments in process document

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[09:38] <AWK> Hey - totally bogged down with other stuff - do you need me for anything?

[09:38] <SarahHorton> No, we're good

[09:38] <AWK> great, thanks

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[09:39] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Propose a date for deciding on a process — maybe one month after TPAC

[09:40] <SarahHorton> Sarah: Let's shoot for Halloween, October 31

[09:40] <SarahHorton> Sarah: That's the date to decide on the process we will follow to design Silber

[09:41] <SarahHorton> Sarah: TPAC is week of Sept 19

[09:42] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Have a check in before, week of Oct 17

[09:42] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Going into TPAC we need to have a list of three processes at most to propose as options

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[09:44] <Ryladog> Present+ Katie_Haritos-Shea

[09:44] <Lauriat> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1No9ANI6YFEnYNjVsQgRqRxEx4RGeVJl9_3Kt-VAfSvI/edit?usp=sharing

[09:44] <Lauriat> (scratch/working doc)

[09:45] <SarahHorton> Shawn: On Oct 17 this is the option that looks like the path forward

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[09:46] <SarahHorton> Shawn: We will get to that after discussion at TPAC and refinement of proposed process

[09:46] <SarahHorton> Sarah: How do we get from 3 proposed options to the one way forward

[09:47] <SarahHorton> Shawn: We need a format structure for the meeting

[09:47] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Here's what we've been doing, here's what we think the options are, talk through each for 5–10 minutes, from there open discussion

[09:48] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Keeping things constructive, keep the discussion tight and strict timewise, so we can get to agreement at the end of the meeting

[09:48] <SarahHorton> Katie: Are you presenting to main WCAG WG?

[09:49] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Yes, Andrew said we can do 2–4 hours, leaning to 4 hours so people can take part and propose changes

[09:49] <SarahHorton> Sarah: There are design methods

[09:49] <SarahHorton> Shawn: We can look at those later, how to wrangle meeting and keep it productive

[09:50] <SarahHorton> Shawn: For now we need to focus on the process proposals

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[09:53] <SarahHorton> Shawn: After TPAC will give a public update on a draft proposal and we can invite feedback then

[09:53] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Oct 17 update is final announcement of path forward and invitation to respond

[09:54] <SarahHorton> Action: <Shawn> will write up proposed timeline

[09:55] <SarahHorton> ACTION: Shawn will write up proposed timeline

[09:56] <SarahHorton> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1irMybNoo-yUaUlEoo4beqIkTX7MUmyBX4b2eqZNjfR8/edit

[09:56] <SarahHorton> (scratch/working doc for process options)

[09:59] <SarahHorton> Sarah: Added section on Interviews

[10:01] <SarahHorton> Sarah: Leave in literature review, added "article"

[10:03] <SarahHorton> Sarah: Personas are for people who use WCAG, not personas of people with disabilities, we will use the personas to help make good decisions about how to design silver

[10:04] <SarahHorton> Katie: Could ask people for user stories as part of survey

[10:05] <SarahHorton> Katie: EO, WebAIM, etc would have good insights for user stories on using WCAG

[10:07] <SarahHorton> Katie: Likes idea of workshop to brainstorm options and make them visible so we can consider them

[10:11] <SarahHorton> Katie: Do some face to face, some online, make sure people can contribute

[10:12] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Created draft timeline in agendas doc

[10:13] <SarahHorton> Shawn: We will need to work hard between now and then, all meetings will be working meetings

[10:14] <SarahHorton> ACTION: Sarah will do more work on Process Options document for Tuesday meeting

[10:15] <SarahHorton> Sarah: Next step is to group activities

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[10:16] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Go through list and anything that is there that seems similar and stack rank them, prioritize them

[10:18] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Want to keep effort and funding out of discussion, these are ways to measure the "cost" of the activity rather than its impact

[10:18] <SarahHorton> Shawn: Impact or priority, things we know the process has to accomplish

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[10:20] <SarahHorton> NEXT MEETING: Finalize process options list

[10:21] <SarahHorton> NEXT MEETING: Work on ranking the activities

[10:21] <SarahHorton> NEXT MEETING: Look for logical groupings