W3CUser Interface Domain

A MathML for CSS Profile Last Call Dispositions

Public Version   [Member-Confidential Version]

30 November 2009, Version 1.0

Robert Miner, Design Science, Math WG Co-chair
Patrick Ion, MR/AMS, Math WG Co-chair

Table of contents

2 comments of which 2 are resolved

MathML for CSS Profile Last Call Comments and Responses

The MathML for CSS Profile Last Call draft has received two comments. One is an endorsement, the other some initial suggestions that do not have an impact on the present document.

We itemize the comments received and the Math WG responses. The new Profile seems has received no objections and general support from the community. This may result from the fact that a profile and an associated CSS stylesheet are difficult to fault since they actually work.

Summary: Comments from CSS WG
Submitted: Bert Bos, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-math/2009Nov/0041.html
Response: None needed
Just to close the loop:

The CSS WG has no comments on
(Also no ideas yet about how to improve CSS for math in the future, but that is not the subject of this particular draft.) Congratulations on a very practical specification!

Resolution: An endorsement from the CSS WG.
Summary: Initial thoughts re. XSL-FO
Submitted: Liam Quin, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-math/2009Nov/0000.html
Response: None needed
[These comments have not yet been discussed with the
 XSL-FO Task Force of the XSL Working Group, and
 should be taken as a personal heads-up and not a
 formal comment requiring a Working Group response]

Lots of good stuff in the MathML draft. And some very
clear and honest writing.

For XSL-FO 2.0, people have requested
(1) include MathML directly, e.g. having
    math:math markup directly inside an fo:inline element
    I don't think any work is needed from MathML for this.

(2) Allow such embedded mathematics to inherit CSS properties
    such as width, font, text size etc from the surrounding
    XSL-FO document.  The MathML 3 draft does move in this
    direction, but the XSL-FO WG may request more.
    It might be that, e.g. a joint WG Note could satisfy
    this, without normative changes to the MathML spec itself.

(3) I think that putting fragments of XSL-FO markup inside
    equations, where mathtext is allowed now, is also
    desired -- I'm sure that we could live with a lot of
    restrictions on this, and until we hear from XSL-FO
    implementors it's premature of us to ask for it, but
    since you're at Last Call I wanted to give you the
    idea that we might ask for it.  An example is a list
    of expressions rather like "case" notation for
    mathematics, with large curly braces or other fences,
    and perhaps a bulleted list or sequence of paragraphs

These are exactly the things we discussed informally in a joint
meeting a year ago, so it doesn't look like we're going to be
gaining requirements.  We are working on non-rectangular
paragrahs/regions/blocks, but my personal opinion (since
we have not discussed it) is that a restriction that embedded
content must always be rectangular would be just fine in


Liam Quin, W3C XML Activity Lead, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/ * http://www.fromoldbooks.org/

Resolution: Self-closing: some helpful suggestions for later action as the XSL-FO work proceeds.