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Bug 13718 - specification should not require language-specific quotation styles without defining them
Summary: specification should not require language-specific quotation styles without d...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: All All
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Reported: 2011-08-09 23:31 UTC by L. David Baron (Mozilla)
Modified: 2014-05-07 23:03 UTC (History)
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Description L. David Baron (Mozilla) 2011-08-09 23:31:58 UTC
As I said before in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2004Feb/0087.html , I believe this statement in the HTML5 spec:

  # Rules setting the 'quotes' property appropriately for the locales and
  # languages understood by the user are expected to be present.
  ( http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#phrasing-content-1 )

is not reasonable.  It imposes nearly indefinite research requirements onto any implementers intending to produce an implementation supporting the suggested default rendering.

If the HTML specification wants to require that user-agents observe quotation styles for various languages, it should specify what those styles are or cite a (potentially evolving) document that does.


(Really, though, I think the <q> element should be deprecated in favor of a new element in which the author writes the quotation marks explicitly, and the <q> element's legacy rendering behavior made something simple and easily interoperable.)
Comment 1 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-21 20:49:07 UTC
Unless a CSS sheet is given in bug 13398, I will add the following rule to the style sheet:

   :root { quotes: '"' '"'; }
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-10-07 22:35:34 UTC
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Status: Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: See above. I expect this will change again once we fix bug 13398.
Comment 3 contributor 2011-10-07 22:36:28 UTC
Checked in as WHATWG revision r6655.
Check-in comment: Remove the incredibly vague and complicated requirement that UAs provide localised quote rules.
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6654&to=6655