ISSUE-213: Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline

text outline

Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline

State:
CLOSED
Product:
TTML2
Raised by:
Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
Opened on:
2013-05-23
Description:
All of the major browsers have declined to implement text-outline, and as a result it is dropped from CSS3. Instead they have adopted text-shadow which is probably sufficient for our needs.

e.g. try :
.region {
background-color:grey;
}
p {
color:white;
text-shadow: 0px 0px 1px black , 0px 0px 3px black, 0px 0px 3px black;
}

I suggest we put a note in the SE to the effect that we intend to deprecate this in v.next and replace it in v-next with textShadow.
Related Actions Items:
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Related emails:
  1. RE: {minutes} TTWG Meeting 2014-12-04 (from John.Birch@screensystems.tv on 2014-12-04)
  2. Re: {minutes} TTWG Meeting 2014-12-04 (from glenn@skynav.com on 2014-12-04)
  3. {minutes} TTWG Meeting 2014-12-04 (from nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk on 2014-12-04)
  4. {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2014-12-04 (from nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk on 2014-12-03)
  5. {minutes} TTML Meeting of 24/10/13 (from glenn@skynav.com on 2013-10-24)
  6. RE: TTML Agenda for 24/10/13 (from mdolan@newtbt.com on 2013-10-23)
  7. TTML Agenda for 24/10/13 (from nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk on 2013-10-23)
  8. TTML Agenda for 30/05/13 (from Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com on 2013-05-29)
  9. RE: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from mdolan@newtbt.com on 2013-05-24)
  10. RE: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com on 2013-05-24)
  11. Re: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from mdolan@newtbt.com on 2013-05-23)
  12. Re: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from glenn@skynav.com on 2013-05-23)
  13. Re: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from pal@sandflow.com on 2013-05-23)
  14. Re: ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from mdolan@newtbt.com on 2013-05-23)
  15. ISSUE-213 (text outline): Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline [TTML.next] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2013-05-23)

Related notes:

SMPTE has requested support for both text-outline and text-shadow (see ISSUE-235). Perhaps simply add note emphasizing that text-outline support is limited.

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux, 21 Oct 2013, 20:39:56

Raised by Sean Hayes

Philippe Le Hégaret, 24 Oct 2013, 15:34:51

PAL: P1

Philippe Le Hégaret, 24 Oct 2013, 15:36:28

CSS3 draft of text shadow allows multiple outlines to be specified in the same term. So can handle the look of outlining and shadowing.

Sean Hayes, 24 Oct 2013, 15:37:56

CSS3 text shadow allows for multiple shadows to be applied in the same term so can handle outlining and shadowing at the same time

Sean Hayes, 24 Oct 2013, 15:39:02

Why would the fact that both textOutline and textShadow in TTML can map to the same text-shadow in CSS be a reason to deprecate textOutline in TTML, since existing documents probably already use textOutline?

Pierre-Anthony Lemieux, 1 Nov 2013, 17:48:09

Propose no action (do not deprecate). tts:textOutline and proposed tts:textShadow are independent, even though the former may be able to be approximated by the latter.

Glenn Adams, 30 Nov 2014, 19:57:41

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