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15 August 2025

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Rahim

Meeting minutes

<Rahim> s/dded a reference to aria-live/added a reference to aria-live/

<Rahim> s/should be move to enumerated/ should be converted to enumerated/

<Rahim> s/string might all map to false./string might all map to the false state./

<Rahim> s/Anne said we don't need to specify "undefined"/Anne said we don't need to specify "undefined" the string as a keyword/

<Rahim> s/engines will have on canonical keyword/engines will have one canonical keyword/

<Rahim> s/the string of foo is not represented in the engines, but still maps to false/the string of foo is not represented in the engines, but still maps to false (i.e., the invalid value default)/

<Rahim> s/luke from igalia is going to be adding some more spec updates regarding reflected/luke from igalia is going to be adding some more spec updates regarding reflection/

<Rahim> s/but if I pass any string value, the invalid value default is true/but if I pass any string value that is not a valid keyword, the invalid value default is the true state/

<Rahim> s/the only case where not all invalid strings map to invalid value default (scribe did I catch this right????)/the only case where the false state is different than invalid value default, which is the true state (i.e., the invalid value default doesn't act as catch-all like all other attributes with multiple keywords for the "false" state)/

<Rahim> s/I think option 1 is the easist to understand/I think option 1 is the easiest to understand/

<Rahim> s/the values we list are values that existed in teh past/the values we list are values that existed in the past, and already referenced in spec/

<Rahim> s/that is the reason why I opted for reason 1 initially/that is the reason why I opted for reason 1 initially (i.e., listing out every single possible keyword, despite duplicates)/

<Rahim> s/ the undefined content value, maps to the false state/ the undefined string as the content attribute value, maps to the false state)/

<Rahim> s/aria-checked does have an undefined state, but the string undefined would be null/aria-checked does have an undefined state, but the string undefined would be null (i.e., Undefined state, which is no state = null)/

<Rahim> s/I would like to add a caveot to option 3/I would like to add a caveat to option 3/

<Rahim> s/so you don't have to use the terminology undefined, you can say "no state"/so you don't have to use the terminology undefined, you can say "no state" which ultimately maps to the same value of null/

<Rahim> s/saying the name of the state, rather than no state/saying to explicitly name the state, rather than relying on no state (i.e., null)/

<Rahim> s/do they need to be reference by algorithms?/do they need to be referenced by algorithms (if not presently, perhaps as a future-facing consideration)?/

<Rahim> s/rather than just relying on the browsers who need to look at this/rather than just relying on the browser vendors who need to look at this/

<Rahim> s/will it be obvious to me that's we're OK/will it be obvious to me that we're OK/

<Rahim> s/ it's a public review/ it's a public repo/

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 244 (Thu Feb 27 01:23:09 2025 UTC).

Diagnostics

Failed: s/dded a reference to aria-live/added a reference to aria-live/

Failed: s/should be move to enumerated/ should be converted to enumerated/

Failed: s/string might all map to false./string might all map to the false state./

Failed: s/Anne said we don't need to specify "undefined"/Anne said we don't need to specify "undefined" the string as a keyword/

Failed: s/engines will have on canonical keyword/engines will have one canonical keyword/

Failed: s/the string of foo is not represented in the engines, but still maps to false/the string of foo is not represented in the engines, but still maps to false (i.e., the invalid value default)/

Failed: s/luke from igalia is going to be adding some more spec updates regarding reflected/luke from igalia is going to be adding some more spec updates regarding reflection/

Failed: s/but if I pass any string value, the invalid value default is true/but if I pass any string value that is not a valid keyword, the invalid value default is the true state/

Failed: s/the only case where not all invalid strings map to invalid value default (scribe did I catch this right????)/the only case where the false state is different than invalid value default, which is the true state (i.e., the invalid value default doesn't act as catch-all like all other attributes with multiple keywords for the "false" state)/

Failed: s/I think option 1 is the easist to understand/I think option 1 is the easiest to understand/

Failed: s/the values we list are values that existed in teh past/the values we list are values that existed in the past, and already referenced in spec/

Failed: s/that is the reason why I opted for reason 1 initially/that is the reason why I opted for reason 1 initially (i.e., listing out every single possible keyword, despite duplicates)/

Failed: s/ the undefined content value, maps to the false state/ the undefined string as the content attribute value, maps to the false state)/

Failed: s/aria-checked does have an undefined state, but the string undefined would be null/aria-checked does have an undefined state, but the string undefined would be null (i.e., Undefined state, which is no state = null)/

Failed: s/I would like to add a caveot to option 3/I would like to add a caveat to option 3/

Failed: s/so you don't have to use the terminology undefined, you can say "no state"/so you don't have to use the terminology undefined, you can say "no state" which ultimately maps to the same value of null/

Failed: s/saying the name of the state, rather than no state/saying to explicitly name the state, rather than relying on no state (i.e., null)/

Failed: s/do they need to be reference by algorithms?/do they need to be referenced by algorithms (if not presently, perhaps as a future-facing consideration)?/

Failed: s/rather than just relying on the browsers who need to look at this/rather than just relying on the browser vendors who need to look at this/

Failed: s/will it be obvious to me that's we're OK/will it be obvious to me that we're OK/

Failed: s/ it's a public review/ it's a public repo/

No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: Rahim

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