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Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

03 Jul 2025

Attendees

Present
Sage, Kathy, Wilco, Helen, Shunguo
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Shunguo

Contents


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New "All rules" page

<Wilco> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act-rules/pull/330

Wilco: first item for today is New all rules page

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-330--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/

Wilco: has been working for couple months, you all seen before. I just want to get all those agin

Sage: iterates

Wilco: redesign of the all rules page with three list: Aria, SC, . Many people thinkk it's more helpful with SC.
... break the guidelines and SC. but not principles in t complicate the structure. FOr the different SC, use paragraphs with proposed rules. Let me share the links. For composite rules, use sublist, it was not clear. Want to give some insight on how rules are organized. Other thing to know is how rules are filtered, for example, how many

approved rules

Wilco: yo can look at rules are automatically tested. The botum of the page is a section for each ARIA requirements. Last thing added recently is an implementation section.
... another little thing is I added a secrete little "Back to TP", it's only there is you tab to it.

Sage: thank you, that's important

Wilco: there are couple depreacted rules. One thing of note we do have more deprecated rules. I figured just mentione it.

Sage: just 2.2 is deprecated?.

Wilco: working group has different versions for this.

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-330--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/?requirements=a,aa,aria&status=deprecated&implement=auto,semi-auto,manual,lint,none&display=

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-330--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/?requirements=a,aa,aria&status=proposed,approved&implement=auto&display=

Wilco: another thing is URL generated. If you type the url for all aotomated rules, you can do it

Wico: any comments? thoughts?

Sage: we don't have to, but just
... I think Shunguo accidentially added Hellen's comment to me. (Shunguo: very sorry)

Wilco: any other comments?

<Helen> +1

<Kathy> +1

+1

<Sage> +1

Zakim: do we need to mention the ARIA rules are approved?

Wilco: this was in the document in the past
... I can put that in
... <editing the rule page>
... the rules approved by the working group.

Kathy: I am 50-50. Would be great if we have those.

Kelen: separte the info from summary

Helen: the relevant info

Kathy: edit the section headings or?

Wilco: we already have the info

Kathy: we don't have the info

Wilco: generalize the summary with it, anything else?

Zakim: take up next

Restarting rule approval process

Wilco: we have quite a lot rules proposed. <screen sharing>
... a lot of rules on caption, audio description, being waiting for us to implement.
... we used to have a large group, we decided the work on the call, and on hold till the work is done. But we haven't done it almost for a year
... we haven't done new rule review for a year. The group is smaller, but we do need to get this, but depend on people's time to do it.
... we also have many rules that need to update. That's where we land.

Helen: we ned to do things for people when they have time.

Kathy: do we review the approved rules yearly?

Wilco: real issue here is do we have people to do this?
... if people can commit a couple hours a week, we can do most of. But if only just one or two weeks, we can get Pull Requests reviewed.

Zakim: because of my paid work, I am not sure if I can commit on

HeleN; paid work coming first. I we can get pid to do this, it can be done fast

Helen: I will do one of those.

Kathy: if we calima rule and make it a task, I don't know w time frame for a rule to ready for approval. I can certainly take on multiple roles

Helen: It will depend how many items are needed, we might get more done, never know

Kathy: question on the rules, if we can ge CG folks help if we cannot get done

Wilco: CG don't comment and feedback on a rule. But CG can get rule to process either. I can get some work, maintenance, with my own time doing reviews. Outside of that, I don't see I have bandwidth to do that.
... if our employer doesn't give us enough time, this cannot get done

Sage: this could become a paid opportunity?

Wilco: in the past this similar things get done by members spending their own time.

Helen: I might get some items, UX,

Kathy: I don't see I will get more time in the future.

Wilco: another thing is we use meeting to do this, working sessions.

Sage: I like it if I can

Helen: I can do the thing more achievable.

Wilco: Next meeting, we will pick up tasks.
... If we can get approved every two weeks, that's going

Sage: it's better than nothing

Wilco: anything else?

Kathy: question on the rule: PR 2345?
... question related to Wilco's comment: if we need a separate rule for this. I separate the accuracy part to created this rule. The previous rule has both

Wilco: Caption is only required only ....

Helen: SC does say

Kathy: accurate caption is provided for audio information.

Helen: 1.2.2 has a section

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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