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ACT Rules Community Group Teleconference

29 May 2025

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Helen, sashanichols, Wilco, Sage, Jeremy
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Contents


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ACT standup

Helen: waiting for reviews on my PR

Wilco: Getting rules format 1.1 issue resolved
... working on a new all rules page with filters and sparkles

Sasha: Worked on tests to ensure ARIA requirements have titles

Sage: will do PR review

SY: Testing for the scrollable element rule, if we have time I can share results for that

Add WCAG rules overview: https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act-rules/pull/330

Pull Requests wanting Reviews - 15 open issues: https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3A%22reviewers+wanted%22

Helen: there are several PRs open for review
... PR 1382, who is available to review?

<sashanichols> zlayaAvocado

Helen: Adding Sasha and Shunguo for review

Next we have 1539 by Jean-Yves

Wilco: This PR doesn't seem complete. There are empty sections in here. Maybe this needs to be in draft

Helen: Next 1655, this has changes requested. We'll take reviewers wanted off until the requests are resolved
... next is 1845, this needs a review from Wilco
... Next one is #2022, I think this is ready once we have extra examples.

Sage; I'll help review 2022

Helen: Next PR 2075, two approvals and lots of comments on this one.
... I think this one requires updates first. Taking off the reviewers wanted label
... next is 2099. SY will review this
... Next is 2154, any volunteers for reviewing? Sasha? (yes)

SY: I can review that one too

Helen: PR 2156, this one needs a new assignee since Trevor left the group.

Sage: I'm willing to have a go at it
... is it possible to get the background info on this?
... I'll join back for office hours later

helen: Marked as research needed
... Next is 2160. This has changes requested on it. I'll remove the label
... PR 2190, this has a change request on it. Removing the label

<sashanichols> I wonder if its possible to auto remove that label when PR changes are requested

helen: Next PR 2279. This has change request by Dan.

Wilco: Suggest asking Dan if he'll take over from JYM

Helen: I'll send Dan an e-mail about it

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<Helen1> Wilco: This started as a change, but now might be a full ACT page replacement

<Helen1> ... We have a long list of rules at the moment - not ideal

<Helen1> ... We now have filters to filter on success criterion and separated the approved, draft and deprecated ones

<Helen1> ... and a nested list for composed rules to see the relationships

<Helen1> So we have the top rule that uses the indented rules beneath it

<Helen1> ... So we have the top rule that uses the indented rules beneath it

<Helen1> ... We now have an easy way for Helen to see the missing rules we need to show the empty SC

<Helen1> ... I am now creating the ARIA requirements and using ARIA

<Helen1> ... Shows off his filters to the group

<Helen1> ... I still want to have the filters to dynamically update the URL to allow sharing the filters used

<Helen1> ... gets surprised by his code working

<Helen1> ... if we like this - we will need to get approvals from multiple teams

<Helen1> ... AI did my job for me

<Helen1> Helen: Maybe allow the filters to stay visible as you scroll?

<Helen1> Sasha: With keyboard navigation - you would need to return to the top before editing it

<Helen1> Wilco: I will implement a Back to Top option to work throughout the page for keyboard options

https://deploy-preview-330--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/wcag/#wai-ariarelatedrules

Helen: final thoughts?

<Helen1> Wilco: I look forward to publishing my work!

SY: I have some test results to share
... A few months ago chrome made changes so that scrollable content is automatically focusable
... I did some additional tests with Safari.
... in Safari if an element has tabindex=-1 I can still get it to scroll
... I think this rule doesn't apply to safari
... My suggestion is that this rule may need to be deprecated

https://www.w3.org/WAI/content-assets/wcag-act-rules/testcases/0ssw9k/5fa34d0a7eea03109cd12c0e7c21fce793c268db.html

<Shunguo> https://www.w3.org/WAI/content-assets/wcag-act-rules/testcases/0ssw9k/5fa34d0a7eea03109cd12c0e7c21fce793c268db.html

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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