Meeting minutes
Restructure clreq per standardised headings
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xfq: I updated the document based on our discussion in the last meeting and also discussed it with Richard, who suggested moving 5.1 Line Composition Rules for Punctuation Marks and 5.2 Sizes and positions of Punctuation Marks to section 3. Glyph shaping & positioning, especially 5.2.
Eric: In this way, all the content related to punctuation marks is separated
xfq: Yeah, we have discussed this issue several times.
Eric: glyph shaping is more about the ability for letters to change shape depending on their position in a word
Eric: I don't think it's related to Chinese
xfq: Richard thought in Chinese it could refer to the difference between punctuation in horizontal and vertical writing mode, or the difference between the punctuation glyphs in Mainland China and Hong Kong / Taiwan.
Eric: I don't think so. I think it's more about Arabic, Brahmic, N'Ko, etc.
[Discuss what is 'glyph shaping' and 'context-based shaping & positioning']
Eiso: I agree with Eric that the punctuation differences in horizontal and vertical writing mode are beyond the scope of context-based shaping & positioning.
xfq: Even if we don't put it in section 3, we have to find a place to put this text.
… without introducing new level 2 headings
Zhengyu: I think 5.2 can be put in section 3, but 5.1 can't
Eric: 5.1 is the overview text
Eiso: I think putting 5.2 in section 3 is not a good idea
[Discuss the content of 5.2 Sizes and positions of Punctuation Marks]
Zhengyu: If we put 5.2 in section 3, we need to modify the text of this section
xfq: There are some contents in this section that appear elsewhere. I can delete them.
Eric: agreed to removing the duplicated text
Eric: I think the content in 5.2 can be moved to 2.1.2 Major Differences Between Horizontal and Vertical Writing Modes, maybe as item 2.1.2.2
xfq: the text in 5.1 can be moved to 5.3 Phrase & section boundaries
Eric: OK
Bobby: I think readers will feel that the punctuation marks are separated and very fragmented.
Eric: The main content is in 5.3
xfq: I'll update the PR
Go through the issue list
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w3c/clreq#632
[Discuss how to fix these issues]
xfq: I'll look into this after merging #633
w3c/clreq#616
xfq: I made a comment in w3c/
[Discuss xfq's comments]
Zhengyu: I think I'll have to rewrite this section after the document is reorganized.
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[Discuss text in other layout requirement documents]
Zhengyu: The time and date part can be considered to be placed in a special section, the Data formats & numbers section, which is currently empty
AOB
[Discuss the revision of the new national standard General Rules for Punctuation (GB/T 15834)]
Eric: It would be better if the two sides of the Taiwan Strait could unify the use of punctuation marks as much as possible.
[Discuss TPAC 2025]
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